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Israeli settlers in the West Bank, emboldened by Trump’s return and a far-right Israeli government, are pushing for formal sovereignty over the territory.

Settlement activity has surged to record levels under Prime Minister Netanyahu, with nearly 6,000 acres designated as state land in 2024 and dozens of new outposts established.

While settlers see this as fulfilling Biblical claims, Palestinians view it as erasing hopes for a future state.

Critics warn annexation could jeopardize regional stability and U.S.-brokered normalization efforts, such as those with Saudi Arabia.

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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

You put so much work into this post but it is hopelessly naive. Most people are just downvoting but I'll break it down.

Let's say the "Bavarians" from your example win the lottery. Who is a Bavarian? How many generations of Bavarians back of both parents being Bavarians do we go? It's ridiculous.

If you include immigrants to Bavaria, we go right back to skin color racism, so you need "pure bloods". What about the family that moved to Bavaria in 1879 from Congo?

We are a global society whether we like it or not, and "simple" things like electricity and home water access will definitely stop if 90%+ of the population of earth is eliminated.

You seem to be speaking under the assumption that we will become a spacefaring species, colonizing planets. This is highly dubious with current and predicted technology. If you eliminate most people, do you think this could possibly happen? I personally don't think it will ever happen.

Oh you're religious. Nevermind. No point in discussion of the future when you believe there is a dimension we magically travel to when we die.

Thank you for voting. Please continue to vote if we have the option of true elections in the future.

[–] MonkeMischief -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Oh you're religious. Nevermind.

Man, you were on a good logical counterpoint streak until you seemed to feel the burning desire to jab an ad-hominem in there.

Otherwise all good points.

Please remember the human being behind the post. <3

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I shouldn't have said that. You're right. It just boiled me when I got to the point where they're thinking these evil people are going to hell. Believing in afterlife punishment or reward causes people to ignore the reality of life. I feel the same about the ridiculous concept of karma.

I didn't downvote you, that was someone else.

[–] MonkeMischief 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

No hard feelings. :) I understand it's an emotionally charged topic.

Believing in afterlife punishment or reward causes people to ignore the reality of life.

That's a fair perspective, but I think like many things it can shift wildly based on the individual's existing tendencies.

For example, I believe in an afterlife and the persistence of the human soul, but that spurs me to do the very best I can in this life and be accountable for it, rather than waste it.

While, as you said, others inclined to apathy might use that perspective as an excuse to loaf or not hold bad people accountable.

Could not the same be said of not believing in an afterlife? This belief could cause one to value every waking second of consciousness they have... ...or they could use it to justify inaction, because "In the long run, what matters anyway?"

Just a thought I had is all.

In either case, perhaps apathy and indifference are our biggest foes.

But hey I appreciate your reply and thanks for not taking my response the wrong way either. I hope you're doing well today. :)

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