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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've noticed this a couple of times: Any time the top handful of comments under some given post doesn't create the consensus reality "Dems are doing everything bad on purpose, don't vote, Democrats are your enemy," there's a notable little flood of comments to try to create that consensus reality. You can see quite a lot of them in these comments. I predict that there will be a continued push of vigorous participation until that reality is created in the comments, maybe by a newer comment with fewer upvotes but with the desired anti-Democrat messaging taking over the top spot as this one ages out, and then a bunch of blander replies to that top-spot comment to push everything else lower down. And then, once that's established, the little flood of activity that created 10 comments with the "right" message in the last hour will subside, and the comments will become a trickle again, with that persistent reality created in the top few comments, and this one buried down below.

The OP comment has a point. That's why it got a bunch of upvotes.

This comment also has a point. That's why it also got a bunch of upvotes.

That's an exchange of views. It is healthy. The little floods of comments with the "right" messaging which tend to continue until they take over the consensus reality are less healthy, in my opinion.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No. My point is you should vote. You should be primarying every corporate Democrat. You should also be working on a third party for the next few years.

Corporate Democrats don't want people to vote. Pelosi doesn't care about you or me, she gets richer off her insider trading and the GOP policies or Dem policies. All they want is to get re-elected. Until that is threatened all we're ever going to get from them is fake concern on talk shows.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Did you think I was disagreeing with you in some way? My reply was to a different comment. I agree with pretty much everything you just said. Well, maybe reforming the voting system before trying a doomed effort to switch “the left” to a progressive third party for the next few years, under a FPTP system… but other than that, yes.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry I'm just so used to people trying to characterize my views on the Democrats as "Both Sides" or "Stay Home".

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 5 hours ago

In fairness, there are quite a lot of people saying that, who have poisoned the well.

I get your frustration. I don't even like the Democrats, and I am constantly accused of all kinds of sins against leftism, just because I keep pointing out that not voting for them, in the current political climate, will make things 10 times worse.

I'm interested to note that the top-level narrative of the first few comments has coalesced exactly as I predicted it would. If you go back and sort by "top," you'll see what the actual consensus is... and yet, somehow there's an opposite consensus that things reliably coalesce into after a while, when the comments settle down.