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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes the Dems should have got some gop votes. It may have made the bill slightly worse, but not by much.

...and...

Getting 95% of the ACA and a Congress that wasn’t deadlocked for the next 6 years would have been much better overall.

The GOP were looking to deny any Obama passage of positive legislation. Are you not remembering "make him a one term President" message from the GOP?

There was ZERO amount of cooperate the GOP were willing to have on any bill that would give Obama a healthcare win.

A split government that functioned more like under Clinton or Bush would have been much better than what ended up happening. The decision to stonewall when they had power unsurprisingly backfired.

"make him a one term President"

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's always rhetoric, but completely shutting out the opposition for major legislation was just not done.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There’s always rhetoric, but completely shutting out the opposition for major legislation was just not done.

History doesn't support your statement.

Feel free to show me legislation that was later signed during the first quarter of the Obama administration that wasn't passed on nearly party lines. I took a look and couldn't find any.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There wasn't any, because of the move to block Republicans from the ACA. It's just like when the Democrats used the nuclear option for judges, it also bit them in the ass the second they were the minority party.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

There wasn’t any, because of the move to block Republicans from the ACA.

Wait, are you saying the the GOP only after the ACA passing on Democrat party line vote decided they would vote party line for every substantive legislative action?