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Late Stage Anglo-American Empire

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see strong support for socialism in any of the states at the moment, so I would say that the US is simply not in a revolutionary moment at this time. If I had to guess, I would predict that US will descend into fascism first. It's also highly likely that the union will dissolve as a result of an economic crisis. We might see worker movements start being forged under those conditions.

[–] SovietReporter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But how do we get socialism from fascism?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Fascism isn't going to be any more sustainable than what's happening in the west right now. It's just the final stage of the current system, and it doesn't offer any actual solutions to the inherent contradictions of capitalism. I think the fascist stage is likely because it builds upon the capitalist narrative that has been deeply ingrained within most western minds. Lived experience is what will ultimately galvanize people against it.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Balkanization. We will likely end up with regional military power centers separated by "dead zones" where power is contested and infrastructure is destroyed. The socialist movement will emerge in the dead zones, where people and the land will be very much alive, but the fascist strongholds will not acknowledge it. Because facism is unsustainable, those strongholds will tighten their grip but be unable to expand, and eventually the gaps will choke off one stronghold at a time.

It is likely that the gap will be the home of the Rainbow Warriors