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This guy's dad is the former VP of a multibillion dollar Turkish conglomerate, as well as the secretary of a government department. Mom and Dad were able to fly to their other home in NJ to give birth so he'd get US citizenship. His uncle is the founder and owner of TYT Media and gave him his media career. He went to Rutgers. He lives in a multimillion dollar mansion in the Hollywood Hills. This is by definition not the kind of person who can be a voice of the People. Saying "I recognize my privilege" over and over, while living his lifestyle, doesn't negate his privilege and complete lack of real-life experience outside of the curated garden of the wealthy. He gets paid obscene amounts of cash to sit in his bedroom and word-vomit for 9 hours a day. Why are his unending opinions taken so seriously? He gives me strong controlled opposition vibes.

Edit: Thank you all for this discussion. I learned a lot.

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[โ€“] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I understand where you're coming from, honestly. But I think this is a sort of trauma response on our end (myself included) at this point. I'm not trying to pin mental illnesses on you, I'm nowhere near a licensed head doctor of any kind, I'm saying that we've been kicked and abused so much by the rich, that it's only natural for those of us who broke free of the brainwashing to be on high alert, at least for a while. The continued unfolding of things surely can't help this situation, either.

That being said, as long as he acts in good faith and is sincere and logical in his approach, which so far seems to be true, I'd say we should embrace his participation! As I see it, we need all the voices we can get. We're already arguing semantics amongst ourselves all day long, I think it'd be a shame to let mistrust shatter "our side" without concrete proof of malicious intent.

At the end of the day, the greatest weapon the Right has is the fact that they yell united at everyone else. Let our chorus rival theirs!

[โ€“] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thank you for being one of the only commenters to understand my question.

[โ€“] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is very dismissive of the other commenters you've responded to who also appear to have understood you quite well. The difference is just that you like this one better.

You rail against someone for their privileges, but can't seem to see past your own biases. We all have biases. It's important to be able to recognize them and try to see past them. Including against privileged allies.

[โ€“] extremeboredom@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

"One of" the only ones, not "the" only one. The difference is exactly what I stated, the respondant clearly understood my question. Would you like me to edit each of my other replies, to acknowledge the ones who also understood my question, for consistency's sake? I should probably then reply to each of the ones who didn't understand my question, to make sure and point it out, right? Otherwise I'm being very dismissive?

I've been learning from this discussion, so I'm not sure why you think I'm incapable of seeing my biases.

Here's a question: Is it cool to hoard wealth if you're saying leftist-sounding stuff while you do it?

[โ€“] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Believe me, I'm keeping an eye on every piece of Leftist media I find, and not just for the purpose of learning. I know Capitalism is very good at repackaging our complaints and critiques and selling them back as dopamine hits, but... there's not much of a choice otherwise. Even the "underground networks' " infrastructure* is owned by someone at this point...