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Microsoft closes the door on Windows 11 supporting older hardware (www.theverge.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by moe90@feddit.nl to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Objectively speaking Linux is not a Windows replacement, its a minix replacement and competes with FreeBSD. Not everyone wants Linux and tbh I wouldnt reccomend Linux to most people.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm very interested on a longer explanation of this take, considering how many people use Linux as a replacement for windows.

And if the argument is "not everything that runs on windows works on Linux", remember that can be said with windows vs Mac, iOS vs android and even windows 10 vs windows 11.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Written from a mobile phone powered by a minix replacement.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Also from my laptop that's running on Alpine Busybox/Linux

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Objective is a very strong word there. "[OS] Replacement" could mean any number of things.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're "technically" correct. That's what Torvalds initially created it as. But what it initially was, and now is are very different things. I'm sure they would call OSX a BSD replacement and not a Windows replacement. Despite many people replacing windows with it. It's pedantically obtuse.

Right now the biggest wall from wider consumer adoption of Linux. Is honestly, simply the lack of systems offered to consumers with it. Outside of a few games with kernel level anti cheat. Or highly proprietary specialized softwares. There's very little that you cannot currently do on Linux that you can do on Windows.

Your Average user/consumer doesn't install any operating system. Whether it is Windows Linux or Mac OS. They simply run what the computer came with. And that's always been windows unless it is an Apple computer. That's part of what the 1999 antitrust suit would have sought to remedy. Microsoft punished any company that had dared to even offer systems with Linux for a long time. And nothing was ever really done to stop it.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I’m sure they would call OSX a BSD replacement

No they wouldn't. That's Linux, among other things, because when it was gaining popularity, BSDs were defending from lawsuits and rewriting litigious parts belonging to AT&T (that is, preserved from original Unix sources).

Right now the biggest wall from wider consumer adoption of Linux. Is honestly, simply the lack of systems offered to consumers with it. Outside of a few games with kernel level anti cheat. Or highly proprietary specialized softwares. There’s very little that you cannot currently do on Linux that you can do on Windows.

No. Actually no, that's not the biggest wall.

Under modern Windows you can run software compiled for Windows XP. Under Linux you'll have a lot of sex with your system before achieving that kind of backwards compatibility.

Since you mentioned BSDs, and they are similar to Linux in daily usage, with FreeBSD you may install compat4x, compat5x and so on packages and run rather old binaries. FreeBSD version of Opera browser (yep, they made a FreeBSD version), which was a binary from Opera Software, didn't receive an update since 2013 and till 2021 and it was in working condition.

This wall for your typical Windows user is hard to describe. They are doing something the only normal way they understand and are told that they are holding it wrong. Say, they install a package for the previous major version of their distribution. Or just try to run some binary downloaded from somewhere and it tells them angry things about libc version and possibly other libraries.

Also the "advanced" things under Linux are not usable for many people, and the "user-friendly" things are complex and buggy.

Of course, Windows users also would really like to use their familiar Windows applications, but that's not as important, Wine solves a lot of it.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

AcKsHuAlLy!!!!!

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 weeks ago

Drag would recommend Linux to everyone, except for the very small minority who plan to install a non-Linux OS on their android phones.