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What metaphor would you suggest instead? At least in my experience, the term is becoming understood more and more by the mainstream.
Could've just said effort or energy and i would've understood the intent of this post, I am now clued into spoon theory now though
Neither of those terms are quite interchangeable though. Everybody has low energy days, that's relatively normal. But the word spoons is a shorthand for explaining a precious, and much more finite resource, as a way to distinguish the experience for disabled people.
But it's not a vital nor precious resource. It's just tangable and limited. I think that's the disconnect.
I'm sorry, are you trying to argue that spoons aren't a vital, nor precious, resource for disabled people? Because I disagree vehemently. Please go and read Christine Miserandino's original post:
https://butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/
I did, and the point was about general translation.
You know what, nevermind, I'm done wasting my spoons arguing this point with people in this thread.
The fact you can't respect that I ran out of spoons for arguing the point, kind of just proves my point that you don't understand the term, doesn't it?
Here I am, after sleeping and recovering some spoons. That are precious, that I still don't want to waste on changing your mind, when you're clearly not willing to understand.
Do you have a chronic illness, or did you just come into this thread to argue with those that do?
I do and so do my family members. Can you admit now that you are not willing to understand a simple point without trying to lecture ad nauseam as if the minor critique was detrimental to the entire concept?
Because here's how it actually works. I'm blocking you because you're toxic, and this is for real not worth my energy.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess me not wanting to try to argue the point was toxic. My apologies that I called into question you having a chronic illness though. I've wasted too many spoons on arguing with people who don't about this stuff in the past.
Sorry Norah, I somehow completely missed these reports. Have removed the comments and have flagged the user as potentially ableist meaning any more dodgy behaviour and I’ll know it’s repeated behaviour -> ban.
I think your reports didn’t federate to my main account @FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone so I only got them when I logged into this dead alt — weird.
I never heard of it before and while I did not immediately fully understand it, I did understand and empathize with its point. I guess what I am saying is this is an anecdotal story that supports your argument.
A bucket full of a liquid. That bucket has a faucet over top of it that fills it at x rate constantly. For disabled people it fills more slowly than normal abled people so pouring energy out is more costly timewise and must be calculated carefully.
While I do like this metaphor, I think it's not useful as a shorthand. Once you explain spoons to people in your life, and they understand, it's a useful tool to catch their attention and help them realise that energy isn't an abundant resource for you.
If the original tweet was for the general audience, just replace with "energy". That's it. The term is more understood in our bubble only. You are suffering from bias.
Jargon is usually used to make oneself feel "in", but it by design excludes everyone else from the conversation.
I come from a mental health background and spoons is excellent for anyone. It needs explaining, sure, but neurodivergent people can use spoons to explain the cost of their executive dysfunction, people with depression can use spoons... hell, people free from illness can use this expression, too!
I get being bitter about jargon but it's an extremely versatile and easy-to-understand metaphor. I think the aim here should be to share it more, rather than try to label it as improper to include.
Yes, if you have the chance to explain. If you can't, talking about spoons just confuses people.
I get that spoons are a tangable and limited resource, and that part provides for a better example. But the part that doesn't work well is that spoons have a specific value and use case. Like, you could still operate pretty normally without a spoon.
Go read the origin post I commented elsewhere in this thread. I think it helps explain why "energy" doesn't work as well.
First I've heard of it