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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

From the linked thread, as a reminder:

This is not a lemmy.world admin, who would actually speak on behalf of the whole instance (Not that those haven’t done questionable shit either, but not to this level). It’s a mod on community that happens to be hosted on lemmy.world, and they are citing the lemmy.world ToS in bad faith. Just like a corrupt cop will think of some bullshit law to arrest you if they wanted to abuse their power.

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The admins stepped in for vegan cats. If they remove mods they do not agree with they could have done so here.

The MBFC bot was also top down straight from the admins.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The admins stepped in for vegan cats.

An admin stepped in for vegan cats, and had his decision reversed by the other admins.

The MBFC bot was also top-down straight from the admins.

https://lemmy.world/post/20947890

[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

An admin stepped in for vegan cats, and had his decision reversed by the other admins.

Why am I not surprised people are exaggerating things to get mad about, lol.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Recent studies in the last 3 years point to the contrary. That is misrepresenting the situation as synthetic taurine, B12 and vitamin A can be provided in a plant-based diet through the form of reputable kibble brands.

Sources:

-https://sustainablepetfood.info/

-https://bmcvetres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12917-021-02754-8

-https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/vetn.2022.13.6.252

-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0253292

-https://www.mdpi.com/2306-7381/10/1/52

-https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0284132

-https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S240584402411609X

-https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/6/9/57

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Curiously clicked on the very last link at random and this is an excerpt of what I am reading:

In 1994, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) reported results of a systematic survey of the health of 300 vegetarian dogs sourced from 33 states within the U.S. and Canada via PETA’s newsletter [54,55]. Dogs ranged in age from young puppies to 19 years old, and included a wide range of breeds, males and females, both neutered and entire. Of these, 65.3% (196/300) were vegan, with the remaining 34.7% (104/300) simply vegetarian. They had been maintained on these diets for anywhere from less than two, to over nine years, with an average of 5.7 years. The precise diets used, and their level of nutritional adequacy, are unknown. Over 80% of dogs maintained on vegan or vegetarian diets for 50% to 100% of their lifetimes were reported as being in good to excellent health (Figure 1).

Bolded the absolutely laughable parts. The other "studies" mentioned in that article are about the same: Voluntary participation in a non-compensated study (leads to self-selection bias), owners simply reporting everything is fine (how do they know? perceived fur shininess is baloney), blood tests inconclusive.

The best you can pull from that article is that switching to a vegetarian diet for your cat/dog is likely not immediately endangering them. So it's more "do so at your own risk" instead of "it's recommended" and I don't see how that is in the best interest of your pet, I'm sorry.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you’re cherry picking right there.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It was the first article I openend and it was a nothing burger, so I guess. And based on your response I'm not gonna dissect the other links because you just want to be right about your personal choice anyway.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And based on your response I'm not gonna dissect the other links because you just want to be right about your personal choice anyway.

That’s literally projection, you’re doing everything you can to deny the scientific evidence to keep up the status quo to back to your obsolete beliefs.

[–] Aux@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

Kibble brands are McDonald's of pet food. Everything they do must be avoided like cancer. Everyone who spreads their misinformation must be cancelled.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, just important to remember that this is a moderation problem as it currently stands, rather than an administration problem.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

On the other hand, little cow is claiming to be speaking for the admins, the post has been on the front page and is now 2 days old, and the admins haven't said a word to disagree.