this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2024
211 points (99.1% liked)

United States | News & Politics

2006 readers
1130 users here now

Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.

If you’re interested in participating, please subscribe.

Rules

Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech.

Post anything related to the United States.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never gotten an entirely satisfying answer as to what "ending birthright citizenship" actually means in practice.

On the one hand, in the Mother Jones article "The Plot Against Birthright Citizenship", it says, "The proposed rule would instruct federal agencies to deny passports and Social Security numbers to children born to immigrants, unless one of the parents is a citizen or green card holder." and it further says, "The fact that Trump referred to a foreign invasion in his campaign video, he [assistant professor of law Evan Bernick] adds, suggests they [the Trump team] might be anticipating litigation and trying to 'boost as much as possible their very minimal odds.'"

On the other hand, in this article it reads, "Under his policies, Trump said, all [members of mixed families] could be deported, including those who have attained citizenship status." and in the aforementioned Mother Jones article it further says, "[According to Trump attourney John Eastman] That right [to citizenship] should be contingent on 'a total and exclusive allegiance' to the United States"

...Which makes it seem a bit ambiguous as to whose citizenship is being called into question. I would decidedly not be affected by the proposed rule, but I was born outside of the USA to one natural-born citizen and one non-citizen, and I have never personally permanently resided in the USA — and since people already question or deny that I'm a "real American" on the basis of me not being from the USA, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if this would at some point in the future translate to my US citizenship actually getting revoked outright. So I don't think people like me are "in the sights" of the "neo-Know-Nothings" at the present moment, but I do sort of worry we will be, given that "total and exclusive allegiance" remark.

Sent from Mdewakanton Dakota lands / Sept. 29 1837Treaty with the Sioux of September 29th, 1837

"We Will Talk of Nothing Else": Dakota Interpretations of the Treaty of 1837

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

…Which makes it seem a bit ambiguous as to whose citizenship is being called into question.

I think uncertainty is the point.