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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 11 points 6 months ago (41 children)

This is not a juxtaposition at all. Terrible ethics aside, the CEO operated more or less totally in compliance with USA law. Being a fucking scumbag is not illegal -- indeed, our country sadly runs on this principle.

The fellow in the subway was acting to a DIRECT threat, and it's pretty easy to draw a line from that guy flipping out to someone being threatened/hurt/killed in the subway. He was already culpable of disorderly conduct or worse, and it's pretty clear that it wasn't Penny's intent to fatally injure him.

The juxtaposition some people feel is because the CEO is acting against their moral framework, but he's operating in a legal framework. This is why our country is fucking sick, but it is is what it is at this point.

[–] MacNCheezus 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Don't forget that one case has already reached its conclusion while the second hasn't even begun trial.

There's still a lot than can happen that might prevent a guilty verdict.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hoo boy. There was plenty of video footage of the accused. He had the motive. When he was caught, he still had evidence on him. He had the means, the motive and the opportunity. By all means, he should be afforded a full and fair trial. However, if his lawyer is able to get the case thrown out or dismissed somehow, it'll be a legal miracle. I honestly have no clue what his defense will be. So far it seems to be "the cops planted the evidence" which I do not think will buy him the sympathy of a jury.

I believe that CEO was a fucking scumbag, but I'd also be inclined to pass a guilty verdict (assuming his defense attorney fails to change my mind). As much as I hate what that health insurance company did, I also would hate to live in a country where vigilante justice is meted out. I would have preferred the shooter pursue health care reform in a more democratic way, as I believe that is the civilized way to enact change. I can simultaneously sympathize with the shooter and condemn him.

[–] MacNCheezus 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Certainly does look a lot like first degree murder at first sight but from what I've seen even the whole story about the circumstance of his apprehension seems rather odd.

Also (and yes I know it's a long shot but still), the jury could simply refuse to indict him because they hate the victim far more than the crime.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also (and yes I know it’s a long shot but still), the jury could simply refuse to indict him because they hate the victim far more than the crime.

This'll be on the prosecution to try to impanel people that will follow the law instead of their hearts. The target aside, I think most people will rule harshly on murder, especially someone shot in the back.

[–] MacNCheezus 1 points 6 months ago
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