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The economy is fundamentally not a zero sum game. It cannot be, under any circumstances. I'm done arguing this point, as I'm not an economist or a game theorist, and you're not either.
Sure it is. We can lose all of our material possessions, and all of our food, while we retain all of the wealth in the world through our faith in God. I advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34, but even though that's only ten verses, for brevity I'll only quote one here:
We were talking about homesteading, which absolutely has a limit.
I was not talking only about homesteading. I speak of all of us who walk upon the earth.
The government has a responsibility to protect our nation as an institution; not to protect us each individually.
Except it's not. You frequently come across as confidently incorrect.
Do you have any awareness that 99.9% of businesses in the US are small businesses? Literally 99.9%. (Source) Normal businesses are far closer to my example of making pottery out of clay from your backyard than they are to giant multinational corporations. But all companies, no matter the size, are normally somewhat strapped for cash, because they need to reinvest profits to grow.
Please start a business. The only reason you have not to is if you're afraid of realizing that your entire economic theory is bunk.
I'm probably more of a game theorist than you if I am being honest. I've done game development on the side for a little while now.
But I think my point still stands because you haven't identified a flaw in my argument.
People can't afford to do that though. It is a financially bad decision to put yourself at financial risk of losing your home, transportation, or food source.
And the government cannot protect one if it fails to protect the other. Our nation is our people. It's not just the land itself.
It's objectively true:
https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
If corporations were not greedy there would be no gap between productivity and pay.
You already brought this up in a different thread. You may have missed it so I will copy and paste:
In other words, judging a company of less than 500 employees as automatically being a small business is a terrible methodology for determining how much power/how big a company is.
Other thread: https://kbin.social/m/conservative@lemmy.world/t/305925/New-York-City-Using-Brooklyn-Parks-as-Migrant-Housing#entry-comment-1680242
I have plenty of reasons. I don't want to lose what little assets I have. The time and effort requirements for such an endeavor is huge. I have no capital to start a business with. I have a disabled girlfriend who requires a lot of care (time). On top of all that, I don't really intend to live my whole life in this country, and feel I might have to leave soon due to the rise in fascism here. Why would I start a business in such a place? It just doesn't make sense.
As is I barely have enough time at the end of the day to relax to myself, let alone start a business.
That's like a plumber claiming he's familiar with the Plumb Line Method of theoretical physics because it has the word "plumb" in it. Game development requires no understanding of game theory.
I find it confusing that you thought you used to be a Christian, when not only did you never form a relationship with God, but you never even learned Jesus's teachings. I quoted from the Sermon on the Mount to you. This is literally Gospel. Again, I strongly advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34.
Then I have misunderstood the term, I apologize.
You cannot speak for me. At the time I fully believed I had such a relationship. And I absolutely was raised as a christian, having been tought Jesus' word.
That doesn't mean it is true though.
Yeah, it's all kind of just meaningless to me. It would be like if I told you to read a passage with a vague moral from a Star Trek book. It's all just fiction, made by men.
Apology accepted. In case you're curious to learn about it, you might click here. It's a good topic for online classes, in case you ever find yourself with spare time.
Did they skip all the parts about mammon, or did you just ignore them? They're fairly central to Jesus's ministry.
It does, in fact.
Even if it was written in Klingon, I'd do my best to read it and wrap my head around the point you were trying to make.
All of the Bible verses I've quoted to you and linked to you have been (by far) the wisest and truest words I'm able to speak. In most if not all cases, they've provided the point I was trying to make. So I find it discouraging and disheartening to know you haven't been reading them, and seriously considering them.
Whenever you encounter a quote from the Bible, begin by thinking to yourself that you're about to read something true and holy — even if you don't believe that yet, start out by telling yourself that. Then ask God — and I know you deny Him, but at least try your best to ask God — that you may receive His holy words with a sober mind, and that you may unquestioningly accept their eternal truth. Then read, and reread, and read once more, the passage until you know it well. Read the context of the passage, as much context as needed, and read it in various other translations, to help you deeply understand its truth.
And with that, yet again, I strongly advise you to study Matthew 6:24-34. That's certainly not the only thing you ought to read, but it'd be a solid start.
Thank you, I'll try to take a look at some point.
No matter what I answer here, it will just feed into this no true scottsman fallacy you have with the definition of "christian".
It seems that you are beginning with the premise that it is true. Again, that would ultimately mean that much of what you say is based on a circular argument.
I'm not talking about understanding though. I'm talking about the value you derive from something you read. I don't get any value out of bible verses. It's just junk to me even if I understand it.
I've definitely been reading them. But it's next to impossible for me to take them seriously when the whole think is so wrong.
I don't have that fallacy in my definition of "Christian" at all. A Christian is a genuine follower of Christ, of which there are many, and many more every day. The fact that some people claim to be Christian without actually following Christ does not mean there's no true Christian. It's entirely possible for you to choose to become Christian.
The only value we can have in life comes from God. When someone gives you a Bible verse, that is likely the most valuable thing you receive all day, if not all year.
And on that point, we have reached an impasse. I must abide by 2 Timothy 3:2-5, and turn away:
Thank you for all of this thought-provoking conversation. I wish you all of the best, and I pray you may yet find God.
That's not what a no true scotsman fallacy means. It's a fallacious way to deflect people from being a part of a group. It is not a statement that no such group exists.
Then it's quite odd how I have value in my life despite it being secular. It's almost like there are many sources of value in life beyond religion.
You are welcome. And thank you for keeping this as civil as it has been.
Like I said, you're not the first so I wouldn't bet on that.