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Makes you wonder what challenges women will face in future space exploration missions. Long periods of isolation with groups of coworkers with very little personal space. Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock (It''ll probably happen who am I kidding)
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there's no doubt that sexual predation would be a big issue and that women would be the first victims of any violence, but it's just part of the greater concern over authority in such a small society.. who is in charge, how are rules enforced and misbehavior punished.. i'm not optimistic that a Mars outpost would be able to survive its own judicial system, for example.. or any of the prepper compounds.. they're sort of all guaranteed to descend into really barbaric circumstances socially..
You wouldn't want to be stuck for a long time in a society made up exclusively of people with severe anxiety and personal issues who reject society? I can't imagine why.
i'm pretty sure they're all guaranteed nightmare scenarios.. i think people build them just for the drama.. so they're all drama queens on top of it..
Not any violence. Men are the vast majority of murder and assault victims in the West, I don't have data for undeveloped countries. Makes sense when you realize we all had "you never hit a woman" beaten into us. Even criminals would rather harm a man than a woman.
What gender is committing all those assaults though
According to the DOJ it's pretty evenly split with a slight majority of men being the perpetrators
Future missions should be all-women teams. Problem solved.
Women eat less, use less oxygen, and weigh less than men. There's actually no logical reason to send male astronauts anywhere.
Edit: lol @ the downvotes with zero responses
Nah that's misandrist bullshit. We've done plenty of all-male space missions and they had no issues.
There are reasons to do that, women and men react differently to long-term microgravity.
I found this study about the differences (but it's from 2014, please tell me if you find a more recent one) The Impact of Sex and Gender on Adaptation to Space: Executive Summary.
TL;DR female astronauts have, according to the study:
Keep in mind that this data is not the best because only around 20% of people that had been on the ISS at the time of the study were women and because male astronauts are more likely to come from a military background.
I personally think this means we should send an equal amount of both sexes (maybe more women as it would help get more data on the differences). Sending all-men or all-women missions sadly won't fully solve the problem as sexual assault isn't always between men and women, that said, it is less common so it's not a bad idea.
Anyways, more investigation is required. If you find a newer/better study please tell me (or if something I wrote is inaccurate), I don't want to spread misinformation
Sure, weight is definitely a more important factor than idk, reaction ability in danger situations or physical resistance to unfriendly environments.
Yes, it is. On a long mission, even a few kg can have big differences in fuel consumption. Also the mean difference of reaction times between men and women is around 20-30ms, which is miniscule. Idk about the differences in resistance to space, but I highly doubt that men are significantly more resistant than women.
Why is 20-30ms "miniscule", but "a few kgs" compared to the weight of a fucking spacecraft isn't?
I would assume a manned mission would have larger tolerances due to the unpredictability of humans and to ensure their safety
I’m not saying men are better than women in those aspects. I’m saying a very limited amount of people, both men and women, have the physical and mental fortitude to withstand a space mission, and there is virtually never going to be a situation where two people have the exact same qualifications and weight has to be the “tiebreaker”. It’s pretty much a non-factor.
But are you including or excluding trans on that??
Mwahahahaah
Oh my God you're so clever!
Lighten up! I'm just taking the piss. Everyone's lost their sense of humour for fear of being angry mobbed.
Ah yes, Schrodinger's douchebag.
Ah yes, clever dick mcfucknugget. Get over yourself you fanny
So not just Schrodinger's douchebag, but a regular douchebag as well.
Uff. Mama the bigger boys are picking on me
Bold move Cotton
I have a feeling people picked for those types of missions will be vetted harder than "Hey, want to see some snow"
Just FYI that username may get you some hostility. It's far too close to Ace of Bass which is a band from the 90s that were neo-nazis. The Base of Aces was a Nazi submarine base in WW2. I'm not assuming anything here, the lead singer and guitarist both confirmed separately that was what their band name was referring to, just before they lost all their fans.
Used this username for years; it's a pun on the famous suit of playing cards the Ace of Spades. While I appreciate the warning, please go touch grass.
Sorry I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but grass is another word for weed, and historically antimarijuana propaganda was used to oppress blacks.
It's much more likely to be a play on the much better known "Ace of Spades"?
I'm not completely ignorant on Nazi dog whistles, but this is not one I know.
Yeah, that's stretching it a little (probably based off the Cracked article from a while back). Ace of Base was named after Ace of Spades (a song by Motorhead) as a reference/homage, anything beyond that is purely speculation as the band have categorically denied it.
And yes, Ulf was indeed in a band that wrote some pretty heinous stuff but he has both repeatedly apologised for that, made clear he no longer believes in any of this, and made explicitly clear that Ace of Base never shared these ideas.
Sources for those wanting to read up on it: Original article in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/rm35nr/ace-of-bases-secret-nazi-past Speculation laden clickbait Cracked article that spawned a bunch of unfounded and unconfirmed theories about the origins of the band's name, meaning/readings of their lyrics, etc: https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america Follow-up in Huffington post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ace-of-base-nazi-past-lyrics_n_3148797 and https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/26/ace-of-bases-ulf-ekberg-addresses-neo-nazi-allegations-_n_3161454.html