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Remember that one teacher who made going to school fun and inspired you to pursue your passions? Students at a new charter school in Arizona won’t, because they don’t get to have teachers. Instead, the two hours of academic instruction they receive each day—yes, just two hours—will be directed entirely by AI.

By a 4-3 margin, the Arizona State Board for Charter Schools on Monday approved an application from Unbound Academy to open a fully online school serving grades four through eight. Unbound already operates a private school that uses its AI-dependent “2hr Learning” model in Texas and is currently applying to open similar schools in Arkansas and Utah.

Under the 2hr Learning model, students spend just two hours a day using personalized learning programs from companies like IXL and Khan Academy. “As students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science, the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content,” according to Unbound’s charter school application in Arizona. “This ensures that each student is consistently challenged at their optimal level, preventing boredom or frustration.”

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What's wrong with spellcheckers? The only problem I have had with them is that they're triggered by technical terms, but that's just a minor inconvenience.

(Thinking I have the spellchecker on when I don't and therefore leaving mistakes in can also be a problem, but it's not strictly the spellchecker's fault.)

Also, before anyone asks, I do find ChatGPT and similar software quite useful.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reference to spellchecking was because at the core this is how (very simplistically) LLMs work as well. Training on data and probability of the next word. For some purposes it works great most of the time, for others it's like using a screwdriver to beat in a nail. It might work sometimes to some degree, but not what it's for.

My opinion is that LLMs are being forced to be solutions in all sorts of places when we're still trying to figure out their best application. To do this in a grade school academic setting is probably not the best idea, such experimental things should filter down from the higher education once they work well. This is about money and someone trying to find a simple answer instead of fixing the problem correctly.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The reference to spellchecking was because at the core this is how (very simplistically) LLMs work as well.

That's not wrong but it is pedantic, contrary to popular usage, and irrelevant to the discussion of how LLMs might affect education. (I'm not saying you are pedantic, because you aren't the one who originally brought it up.) The whole discussion of spellcheckers is.

LLMs are being forced to be solutions in all sorts of places when we’re still trying to figure out their best application

Education doesn't have a first-mover advantage, but people are excited about AI and I don't blame them. The risks of this particular attempt are quite low, so while I don't think I would send a kid to this school myself, I don't think parents who do are wrong.

filter down from the higher education once they work well

I think this technology will be useful in elementary schools before it will be useful in higher education, because college students are more capable of learning without supervision.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

Your last point is really the key one, isn't it? Is a LLM reliable enough to be put in charge of supervising a child's path of learning? I've messed around with local LLMs enough to realize that I'd better double check everything it gives me, as its goal is to tell me what I want to hear, not what is factual.

In rereading that it occurred to me that it was not very different from the worse of the teachers I have had long ago in the past...so take that as a warning, I guess.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ah, I was thinking of autocorrect on PCs, which generally won't change what you wrote without your input. I swipe to type on my phone and the phone does often interpret my gestures as a word other than the one that I intended, but my gestures are so imprecise that I think the phone does a remarkably good job even if I do have to proofread afterwards.

I expect that the phones will do better once they have AI capable of noticing things the user clearly didn't intend to write.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Spellcheck and autocorrect are AI, lol.

I expect that the phones will do better once they have AI capable of noticing things the user clearly didn’t intend to write.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suppose they're AI in a very general sense according to which even simple, deterministic programs such as one that plays tic-tac-toe are AI, but they're not generative models like the software people people usually have in mind when they say "AI" is.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ummm, dude where are you getting this info? It's the OG of AI. It learns from your mistakes and teaches the model.

Edit: Do you know what AI is? I suggest looking at what it really does.