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@antonim this post is how I learned that Labov died 🙇♀️
I posted about his passing two days ago, but it gained less traction - https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33628658 (idk if you can see it on Mastodon)
Funnily enough, I have a somewhat similarly problematic name (not in pronunciation, but in declension - it can take up either feminine or masculine endings). The choice is purely regional and predictable, but I'm still glad to hear new examples (and it's also fun to mention the whole issue and hear layman justifications for this or that option).
I wonder what my pronunciation /lə’bʌv/ says about my English, considering it's my second language. It seems like it would be the more common option because it's more likely to be deduced from the written form?
> a fun anecdote is that Labov didn't correct people on the pronunciation of his last name (/lə'bʌv/ or /lə'boʊv/) because he liked to observe the variation.
man probably kept running averages in his head. you come in, he considers your age, class, subculture and diet and is able to predict how you'll call him
Everybody is posting these elaborate eulogies and Peter Trudgill just says
> We owe him everything.
which I imagine must sound pretty trite to the casual onlooker, but if you've read both Labov and Trudgill you kinda feel the weight of this.