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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I can't look up data that doesn't exist.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=percent+of+americans+carry+guns&ia=web

Since you evidentially are unaware of the existence of search engines I'll provide this helpful link.

Now, if you just wholly reject the concept of estimates (lol but you do you) you can go with the raw "has CCW" number which is tracked, though low (due to constitutional carry/open carry), and would benefit my argument. Again IDGAF, 34% ain't that bad of a percentage for how few people carry whether you believe it or not, and you're clearly dead set on your preconceived notions that misrepresented data is good and estimates are bad (though there is the 8% of americans with verifiable CCW permits, that ain't no estimate), so again I must bid thee adeu.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry, that doesn't prove that there were no armed people in the majority of those situations. That's not how statistics work. It is not an even distribution and I don't think you're stupid enough to believe it is. You made an unprovable assertion.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

That's certainly one way to weasel out of the uncomfortable truth that statistics about owning any consumer good over a broad population in a capitalist system is not evenly distributed.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

You're the one who doesn't want to engage, you can't then claim I'm "weaseling out." You've put forth no counter argument to argue further, this is your doing not mine, I'm just refusing to play your silly game.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm engaging with you this entire time and "that is not an even distribution" is literally a counter-argument. You just don't like it.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

If it helps to use the 8% verifiable "CCW holders" then fine, there's still a low likelihood that any given person there has a gun to respond. The fact that you don't believe in "probability" isn't really my issue, everyone else understands it just fine.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Are you "refusing to play my silly game" or are you accepting that I am engaging with you and making a counter-argument and will continue to discuss this with me?

Because it can't be both.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm refusing to play by reiterating my original point and elaborating on said silly game of "nuh uh estimations and mathematical probability are fake news." Check your house for gas leaks.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago) (1 children)

And now that you've decided to hurl insults, we're done here.

Incidentally, a gas leak is one of the options I'm looking into in four to five years depending on the laws in Canada or certain other countries. Shall I let you know?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

We've been done, you just refuse to shut up when someone politely declines your silly bullshit lol.

"Depending on the laws..." is it only legal to kill yourself or others with a gas leak in Canada? You planning on starting a gas leak? Not sure I want to know what you mean by that weird ass sentence but if you're experiencing suicidal or homicidal ideation of some sort please seek help, it's never the option you should take. I don't like you and don't let me know, but someone does I'm sure and I hope you get the help you need.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

If you don't like me, wouldn't you want to know?

I’m sure and I hope you get the help you need.

That's exactly what the medically-assisted euthanasia will be doing, so thank you. I thought you didn't like me.