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[–] VoterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Just because it's a manipulation doesn't mean it's always avoidable, though. Like Lex Luthor manipulates Superman by putting Lois Lane's life in danger. Letting Lois die isn't typically a real option. He's got no choice but to play the game because he's a moral person.

Are we supposed to just let LGBTQ people die so we can make inroads on the class war? I don't like it, but that's not a real option either.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

No, but we need to learn to work with people we disagree with, even if they disagree on very serious issues that are endangering people's lives. We need to keep having that debate while still working together on other issues.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Letting Lois die isn’t typically a real option.

The way you phrase that had me literally LOLing.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we win the culture war, then we can focus all our efforts on the class war. If we abandon the culture war, we lose our allies and betray our principles and become weaker in the class war.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Indeed, what point is a victory if we sacrifice everyone to get it?