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Maybe it comes and goes.
Because the fact that the majority of civilizations fought and killed each other throughout known history kinda tells me we’ve been at this game for a while now.
And I feel like only in the last 20-30 years have we decided - hey, maybe that’s not so cool anymore?
Perhaps. I mean yeah the history of humanity over the past 2000 years has been brutal. But we go back much farther than that.
I have a real problem with you saying that in the last 20-30 years humanity has chilled out. We've got multiple genocides going on, constant religious conflict, land war in Europe. The United States is so fucked I can't even begin to list the reasons why, and it's on the brink of some really bad things.
How many people can you kill with a club? How many people can you kill with a sword? How many people can you kill with a gun? How many people can you kill with a cluster bomb?
I found "The Better Angels of Our Nature" interesting and well-researched, it changed my opinion on this.
Presence of genocide isn't really an argument against it having chilled out. Empires were born and died all the time in the past, genocides were standard practice by legions, nations consuming each other through war was a constant.
France has been involved in over 200 wars in its history.
Things are different now. Borders being unstable make international headlines. Aggressors in conflicts fact opposition from the entire world even if the defender is a minor state like Ukraine.
Before industrialized agriculture, the Human Population never breached a billion. In the past there was not equity, there was mass starvation for many ruled over by an aristocracy whose only major contribution was organizing militaries to either take food from others or prevent their own food from being taken. All over the world it was common to sell your children because you could not feed them.
Nowadays, violence is simply something optional for despots to entertain themselves, rather than a necessity.
Dude, I’m just trying to sit here and eat some Oreos.