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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not moving goal posts. Last comment because you're obviously not wanting to answer. A successful socialist country or nation state is what I'm asking for and have been asking for all along.

Name one country or nation state that has made it work long term (let's say 10 years) in the last HUNDREDS of years. Pick a century, any century. You can choose from any time period you want.

I know this is breaking your brain, good luck.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To make it more obvious that already: I'm an anarchist. I am against nation states. I do not believe in socialist states because I am against all states. I gave you enough examples of non- and anti-state projects already. The liberation of Kobane is a little more than 10 years ago so Rojava. The Zapatistas declared independence in 1994. The commons discussed earlier went on for centuries in areas big enough to be several states. But they don't count because they didn't have a head of state, three levels of administration and a parliament?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think this is a situation to be envious of?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Koban%C3%AE

I think we're not only on the same page, but at different libraries. Good luck to you.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

YPG-led forces recapture the whole of Kobanî city in late January 2015

So counting the recapture, it's a little less than 10 years but [t]he region gained its de facto autonomy in 2012 which is 12 years and counting. I hope you didn't think I sided with the Islamic State for some reason which sieged the city for 6 months.

Edit: Or are you victim blaming them for being attacked by the IS? In that case, I don't want to enter your library...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aren't we going back to a Bernie Sanders thing? A socialist democracy.

The AANES has widespread support for its universal democratic, sustainable, autonomous, pluralist, equal, and feminist policies in dialogues with other parties and organizations.[

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Both democracy and socialism have a wide range of meanings. AANES has a confederal council democracy, a much more direct democracy than the US or any other nation state. Their concept of socialism is much more radical than Sanders's.