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[–] renzev@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Much like uber and netflix, all of these ai chatbots that are available for free right now will become expensive, slow, and dumb once the investor money runs out and these companies have to figure out a business model. We're in the golden age of LLMs right now, all we can do is enjoy the free service while it lasts and try not to make it too much a part of our workflow, because inevitably it will be cut off. Unless you're one of those people with a self-hosted LLM I guess.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not LLM but there Google Assistant has gotten much more stupid over the past several years. They realized that it was too expensive and had to lobotomize it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't even set a timer with it anymore which was pretty much all I used it for. That and navigation with Android Auto

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huh? I set a timer with a voice command just two days ago. I'm not using "Gemini" though, does opting into that literally remove functionality?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just tried it again, and it worked but for whatever reason, did not use my actual timer app on the phone, and used Google Assistant. For whatever reason the timer was muted by default, so that's why I thought it didn't work at the last time I used it.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I believe that coincided with the Sonos debacle.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IMHO, Google Now > Google Assistant

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Agreed - bring back the golden age where the Google Now app existed and could actually do useful things

[–] spireghost@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago

This. AI Hype beasts keep saying "This is the worst AI will ever be" and "It'll just get better" but really it's just going to get worse as they actually try to turn the bubble into a profit

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 16 points 2 days ago

will become expensive, slow, and dumb

Wouldn't they have to become smart first?

[–] domdanial@reddthat.com 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was about to say, a selfhosted LLM means I'm not competing with every market analysis tool, customer service replacement, and 10 y/o kid bombarding the service with junk. It doesn't need to be ultra fast if I'm the only one using the hardware.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

and who’ll supply the model and training and updates and data curation, dom? is it as manna from heaven? do you merely step upon the path and receive the divine wisdom of fresh llm updates?

fucking hell

[–] domdanial@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly, the data used to create these models was ripped from the public and I think that they are owed back to the public. OpenAI started as a non profit, and I think it should stay that way.

The FOSS model works well enough for other projects and I think that corporate AI will be exactly the same as the industrial revolution, progress at the cost of humanity. This isn't a problem to solve, it's a solution looking for problems.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Base open source model.
Topic expert models.
Community lora.
Program extensions.

Look what comfy UI + Stable Diffusion can achieve.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago

Base open source model just means some company commanding a great deal of capital and compute made the weights public to fuck with LLMaaS providers it can't directly compete with yet, it's not some guy in a garage training and RLFH them for months on end just to hand the result over to you to fine tune for writing caiaphas cain fanfiction.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

And with the pruned llama models, it runs really quickly on a 2070.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Once they are cut off self hosted focus will explode and will see huge improvements in terms of ability and ease of use.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

your Tech Friend is giving you bad advice, stop listening to them

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

oh, I guess then you must be the Tech Friend

either way you probably want to stfu

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That they will not fight self hosted methods tooth and nail

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Until their legislated into illegality.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Is it gonna be "to protect the children", "to stop criminals", or "to save the environment"? Place your bets!

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

"We're not running AI on these servers, officer! Just good old-fashioned crypto hashes."