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[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm more concerned with poverty than I am with the surveillance state. It's already here and will never be rolled back. Things could still be done to alleviate poverty like universal healthcare, ubi, etc.

[–] ubergeek 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those who would sacrifice a little liberty, for a little safety, deserve neither.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Sacrifice? It was fucking stolen, shot in the head, and thrown in the sea before anyone knew it was even happening.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Very good literature lesson you have there. Let's live in the real world. What are you doing to roll back privacy erosion? Kids don't even understand privacy. I have a nephew that uses his full legal name for everything he does online and will not stop, despite me talking to him about how stupid that is several times.

Privacy is over apart from the tools I'm sure you know about and use. Let's focus on the big shit.

[–] ubergeek 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, I'm showing peeps how easy it is to move to tor browser, for more surfing. And if that's too much, I show and help people install a decent browser plug-in collection.

Also, trying, again, to build a community owned mesh network.

And, getting more people to use signal and proton mail.

And, teaching stop the bleed classes, and organizing range days.

And, until recently, seeding community gardens and tool libraries.

So yes, you don't need to sacrifice liberty for safety.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Righteous. We should be friends.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The NSA compromised the TOR network as long ago as 2013, it's not anonymous.

[–] ubergeek 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, they did not. This has been a rumor since the Tor project was created by the DoD. Same rumors about selinux.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They absolutely did, and very likely could again at any time. It doesn't matter what you do if they monitor literally all the traffic everywhere, which they do.

[–] ubergeek 1 points 1 week ago

Cotation needed