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[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not a fan of slicing up the title bar like that, to be honest. Yeah, it saves some space, but I'm on a desktop with plenty of screen space, so that really isn't a priority, and being able to easily move windows around is a priority.

Also, what the hell is wrong with old-fashioned menus? This isn't a phone. GNOME doesn't even run on phones.

[–] j0hax@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] palordrolap@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the thing. There is no title bar. The title bar, if forced to exist, would go above both of those sections.

GNOME apps seem to have been headed in this direction for a while.

If I open gnome-disks, for example, the title bar is kind of odd because it doesn't show the name of the program at all. It only shows the size of the currently selected disk, and underneath that in a smaller text subheading is the actual device pathname of the disk. How many other programs do you know that have a subheading under the window title in the title bar?

This feels like an early decision to do something different with that part of the window.

Further along in the evolution is the dconf-editor which no longer shows any kind of title bar at all. The window manager shows that the window title is "dconf Editor" but there's nothing on the window itself that says that.

Earlier versions of each definitely had a standard title bar (I remember dconf-editor having one fairly clearly, because the new interface seemed strange at first), but not any more.

There's also that desktop web browsers generally request that their title bar not be shown. Given that everyone has at least one browser window open, it would be almost foolish to assume there's been no influence from that design choice.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s also that desktop web browsers generally request that their title bar not be shown.

Those have the excuse that they're basically several windows in one, and the tabs are the title bar-equivalents. Very few apps have that excuse, though.

Side note: KDE's tabbed windows feature was pretty neat. Too bad it's gone.

[–] ProtonBadger@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a laptop user I love the idea that some of the titlebar space being utilized. I don't use GNOME though. I hope there will continue to be good UXs for both of us.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Even my laptop has a large-ish display (17 inch). Really not a fan of small displays. Sure, large laptops are heavy, but I could use the exercise. 😄