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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I only said to apply the logic of liberal democracy to itself, not to apply it to all countries.

I think your insistence on using a fuzzy spectrum to define concrete terms results in words not meaning anything at all. The "99% monarchy 1% democracy" gets to call itself a democracy by your fuzzy logic because it has democratic elements. That's clearly not a good heuristic. There must be a point where the antidemocratic elements in a society disqualify it from being a democracy.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone can always call themselves whatever they want. But fear that people might use a kernel of truth to sell a lie isn’t a good reason to throw away even a tiny part of the truth.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay, so you'll admit that the DPRK is a democracy since it has democratic elements.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, but I will acknowledge where some democratic elements exist within even the DPRK, though they’re very thin and weak.

There are other forms of government that are a better match for describing the DPRK. One party dictatorship, for example.

If you want to apply the same logic to the US, calling it simply an oligarchy rings hollow, though there’s a stronger argument than DPRK+democracy I’ll admit. It’s a democracy with flaws, but those flaws are smaller than the democratic elements they weaken, so it still gets to be called a democracy.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 23 hours ago

I'll continue to call the US a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. It's not like anyone else is allowed to run the country.