this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
357 points (94.1% liked)

News

23897 readers
3097 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Many Americans joining China’s social media platform RedNote are encountering strict censorship uncommon in Western platforms.

One non-binary user had a post asking if the platform welcomed gay people removed within hours.

Posts on LGBTQ+ topics, fitness photos, and sensitive cultural content have been censored, frustrating users unfamiliar with China's moderation rules.

RedNote is hiring English-language moderators to handle the influx. While some users enjoy cultural exchange, others criticize restrictions.

Analysts see RedNote’s growth among US users as a soft power win for China.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 53 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone who has been using Xitter over the last couple of years has already experienced Chinese style censorship.

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Chinese style censorship is more consistent, though. No one is making up rules on the fly.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That is a poor defence of censorship.

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm not trying to defend it, just saying that as bad as Chinese censorship is, Musk is worse.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is consistent. Anything that makes the racists, fascists, incels, tech bros, and billionaires uncomfortable is blocked.

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What makes them uncomfortable could change tomorrow.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Did mentions of Tiananmen Square make China uncomfortable before 1989 or did that change? Did mentions of Winnie the Pooh make China uncomfortable before 2017 or did that change?

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make.

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My point was just that Musk has very thin skin.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

And Xi doesn't?

[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The point was obvious...

Chinese censorship is planned and targeted, with the intent to control and suppress dissent. It works hard to maintain a narrative and prevent excessive and rapid shifts so as to achieve a long term goal of control.

The billionaires running American social media (with a special shout to Musk) are mercurial and subject to the petty whims and feelings of the owner.

So while yes, obviously both change and the heads of the CCP are also occasionally subject to emotional responses, the differences between the two are stark and obvious. So no, "everything technically changes" is not a valid counter to the significant differences in intent and volatility.

Claiming you don't understand the point they were making is just being intentionally obtuse.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm sure your point was very clear in your head but it may not be obvious to you that other people can't read your mind. Suggesting that anyone who doesn't get your opaque point is being obtuse is arrogant and childish.

Do better.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That is a comparatively slow rate of change, don't you think so?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

That was only two representative examples. Do you actually want me to make an exhaustive list of all of the changes that have happened over time to the Chinese censorship regime?

[–] Shacktastic@lemy.lol 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

China censors all literature, film, music, and internet discourse employing advanced technologies and multiple tens of thousands of people while also running the world's largest prison for journalist. VPNs are blocked. Apps like Signal are blocked. Online gaming for minors is limited to 3 hours per day on weekends and holidays only. People get harassed by police for what they post online. Many go to jail for criticizing the government, spreading pornography or health related sexual content (including anything LGBT), supporting Taiwanese independence, or casting doubt on Chinese folk legends. Then, in addition to that (which I have not even begun to do justice to), all media companies run their own internal censorship regimes so as not to get in trouble with the authorities. And this rolls downhill: you the individual self-censor to not get in trouble with your boss or worse.

[–] kuato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah… I don’t think you’re the expert on China censorship you present yourself as.

I think you just regurgitated every piece of Cold War propaganda & every rumor about Chinese censorship that you’ve ever heard.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You don't think that's exactly where the US is heading?

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Heading is different from already being there.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago

Is there a pedant brigade or something?