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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 68 points 6 days ago (3 children)

To be clear: It wasn't the behavior of X or Musk over the past year that caused this, when he was already clearly being a Nazi pushing Nazi propaganda, it was the Nazi Salute.

I'm glad people are finally blocking X and I'll take wins where we can get them, but this should have happened a long time ago.

The behavior of X did not change after his salute, it was already operating as a Nazi platform. My opinion of Musk didn't change after seeing his Nazi salute, I already knew he was a fascist supporting the fascist party. My only surprise was that he was already willing to say it louder for the people in the back that he's a Nazi.

It's so frustrating that people are so unwilling to call fascists fascists until they go completely mask off. Musk can exhibit every Nazi behavior and people keep using X no problem, but it's the fucking salute that gets them to finally block the platform.

So do people hate Nazis because of what they stand for? Or do they just hate the Nazi salute? Because by all available information it's the salute that might get someone in trouble, all the other behaviors get ignored or excused.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I didn't think I was still capable of being shocked but the nazi salute at the president's podium did actually shock me a little. They fuckers are not even trying to pretend any more. I would hope that this shit makes people avoid musk-related products like they're a rabid rottweiler. I kinda feel bad for people who bought a Tesla years ago though. Also, spaceX has to be a national security issue now.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They fuckers are not even trying to pretend any more

They're still trying to pretend:

Alternative explanations for the gesture are plausible. Musk is socially awkward, and he may have been stiffly trying to throw love to the crowd for helping put Trump back in office. “My heart goes out to you,” he said after he did the gesture a second time.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/

Rolling stone? That's disappointing. Yeah I've seen similar shit in the media. But I'm thinking if it acts like a nazi and looks like a nazi it is probably a fuckin nazi. it's pretty fuckin alarming, a lot of people died getting rid of them last time they gained power.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All those "explanations" babbling about Musk's "intentions"... aaah, when will they cut off the crap???

Like. Let's pretend for a moment that Musk was totally trying to convey "my heart goes out to you" or crap like that. It doesn't bloody matter - regardless of his "intentions", the gesture conveys support to Nazism, and it's the only sensible way to interpret it within that context.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

If I somehow accidentally did a Nazi salute my first response would be "Oh my god, I am so sorry, that was not my intention. Nazi's are bad and I denounce all Nazis." Then I would explain what I was trying to do.

Musk hasn't bothered with the apology or denouncing Nazis, because it wasn't a mistake and he was saying it nice and loud for the people in the back.

The most generous interpretation for people defending it is that they know it was a Nazi salute and they are trying to maintain "plausible" deniability. The only other explanation is they are complete fucking morons.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

He’s financing AfD and has agreed with tweets that Jewish people are trying to dovide the white race. He’s as fascist as fascists can be.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

mask off, musk on