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Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’

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[–] StarServal@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay, to anyone who actually supports what Trump is saying and thinks it’s okay, let’s break things down.

First of all, I understand you think it’s okay to do, because you think it’s already being done by Democrats. But regardless of who started it, by saying it’s okay for Trump to do this you are also saying it’s okay for anyone else to do this. Because, if it’s a good thing to do, then it must be a good thing to do by someone you don’t like. If it’s okay to jail a political opponent, then it must be okay to be jailed for being a political opponent, right?

Let’s shift gears here. It’s okay for Trump to unilaterally jail political opponents without due process because you believe Democrats are already doing it to Trump (despite literally going through due process right now). If Democrats really wielded this type of power with as much evil intent as you think, then they would give up the appearance of pretense right? Exactly how Trump is boasting he would do? Wouldn’t it just be easier to throw Trump in a dark hole and forget about him? Not have to worry about all those pesky laws getting in the way?

Here’s a simple challenge to see if something should or should not be done: If the other side did it, would it be a bad thing? If yes, then it should not be done.

[–] DrYes@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"They started hitting me first. So I hit back"

You:

First of all, I understand you think it’s okay to do, because you think it’s already being done by aggressors. But regardless of who started it, by saying it’s okay for self-defenders to do this you are also saying it’s okay for anyone else to do this. Because, if it’s a good thing to do, then it must be a good thing to do by someone you don’t like.

Your argument has no merit if this were an actual self-defense situation. Which Trump's followers believe it is. So you'd need to argue that it isn't a self-defense situation. Your argument wins no one over who needs to be won over.