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"They did not spend more money on alcohol or drugs, contrary to what people believe, and instead they spent the money on rent, food, housing, transit, furniture, a used car, clothes. It's entirely the opposite of what people think they're going to do with the money."

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But not in 100% of cases and therefore it's not worth trying. /s

It is a difficult problem, because there really are some mentally disturbed people in that population too. You can absolutely tackle the problem slowly and one case at a time lift most people out of that situation. But any solution that treats them as a group will bring along the 10% of them that will literally shit all over everything you've tried to build.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there's a "welfare queen" mentality to that. There will always be people who will abuse the system or be unable or unwilling to utilize the service properly. That doesn't make it not worth doing. No solution can work universally, as you said. But it must be applied universally.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Put another way: everyone deserves a chance, even if they fuck it up. But many don't believe that your parents being super poor because of generational trauma, or mental illness, or addiction are significant impediments to success. Bootstrap mentality. Anyone can and should make, and if they don't it's obviously their own fault

[–] Erk@cdda.social 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, it's only a difficult problem if you consider helping ninety people improve their lives at the cost of spending taxpayer money to support ten people's bad habits to be difficult. The real issue here is the number of people (conservative and liberal "centrist" alike) who consider it more important to uphold their personal view of morality than it is to help our fellow humans.

Give them money? But some of them might do the bad thing, so obviously no.