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[–] tree@lemmy.ml 21 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Is there anything Americans could do to petition other countries to help us? ICC or the UN? Or in civil court, could we crowdfund lawyers to sue the government?

[–] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Make a negative post about the US and watch the same people complaining in this thread suddenly become super-"patriotic" and defend the way things are in the US at all cost. You need to redefine what it means to be patriotic IMO. As long as patriotism in the US is understood as reflexively defending what the American government has done at all times, there's nothing anyone outside of the US can do to help.

Patriotism should be looking after the interests of your fellow citizens, and that should routinely mean being opposed to the government, not rallying around it as soon as it's criticized by an "outsider". It's bizarre watching so many people from oppressed minorities being gung-ho flag wavers while the government is planning to put them in internment camps.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The US government does not recognize the ICC. The UN has no power, at most it can sent a stern letter. What could happen is the EU maybe complaining or even sanctioning the US but considering that Germany literally passed an illegal immigration law yesterday(the conservatives with support from the nazis), my hopes are not high.

Human rights is more of an optics(or an excuse) issue, rather than something that governments care about.

Would like to know as well.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

America is not a part of the icc any more effectly putting the usa out of reach. Also they were never a signatory to the international declaration for the prevention and punishment for the crime of genocide

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Over dramatize it as much as possible making it very easy to satirize.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

sue the government?

About that. One frequently looks to the Executive branch to enforce laws, rulings, and other things of legal import. Exactly how does this work if that arm of the government is found guilty of a crime?

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

"We find ourselves not guilty of any wrongdoing oh by the way the president is immune to prosecution"

shit's going as planned. what options do we have?