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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 10 months ago

That's not difficult. Nuclear is extremely expensive.

With renewables you just sell it to the grid for whatever gas generated electricity is going for. Which is currently still a fucking lot. Thanks Russia.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Thanks Russia.

Oh, it gets worse. Russia is big on nuclear, they have a whole agency that deals in nuclear in Europe, it's called ROSATOM.

This is related to other post with the fossil-fuel sponsored ecomodernist girl whining about Greenpeace and nuclear:

Russia lobbied to have the EU include nuclear energy and fossil methane to be included in the "sustainable" taxonomy: https://www.greenpeace.de/publikationen/20220517-greenpeace-report-russland-taxonomie.pdf (PDF)

Russia has a good stranglehold on nuclear energy: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-14/russia-s-grip-on-nuclear-power-trade-is-only-getting-stronger and many European powers ...compliant to that.

Russia's nuclear trade with Europe flowing amid Ukraine war https://web.archive.org/web/20221011224411/https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russias-nuclear-trade-europe-flowing-amid-ukraine-war-90691865

European Union nations are continuing to import and export nuclear fuel that is not under EU sanctions on Russia

Russia’s Grip on Nuclear-Power Trade Is Only Getting Stronger https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-nuclear-power-uranium-plants-europe-imports-germany-sanctions-ukraine-war/

New data show exports in the strategic industry jumped more than 20% last year, as long-term projects boost Russian influence.

Here's an article in German: https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/uran-abhaengigkeit-russland-koennte-den-usa-noch-erhebliche-schmerzen-zufuegen-a-cad81a53-4704-4842-a641-1b6191e4add5

It's even more complicated, but building nuclear now in Europe would mean more dependency on Russian nuclear fuel and nuclear tech.

This includes France, the nuclear postergirl:

French Nuclear Power Crisis Frustrates Europe’s Push to Quit Russian Energy https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/18/business/france-nuclear-power-russia.html

France typically exports electricity, but now it risks blackouts and a need for imported power because of problems at the state nuclear operator.

France accused of funding Putin's war effort by buying his nuclear fuel https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/12/02/france-accused-aiding-putins-war-importing-russian-nuclear-fuel/

It's not just complicated, with many limits, but the useless yammer of nuclear-fanboys is just using up air in discourse.

Building more nuclear will not help with with climate warming mitigation. And it has its own problems with climate, as France knows...

(most recent time this happened, again) France to reduce nuclear power generation due to heat wave https://www.laprensalatina.com/france-to-reduce-nuclear-power-generation-due-to-heat-wave/ from a few weeks ago.

[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Building More nuclear will help with climate warming. None of your links deal with that.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

how will it help? the stuff comes online in decades in the future. We need to reduce emissions now.

[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I agree we need help now. There's a reason it comes so far in the future and all of them are artificial.

If we really wanted to we could build safe nuclear tomorrow. Okay that's a bit of an exaggeration but you know what I mean.

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