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[–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (7 children)

If it makes anyone feel any better, I’m pretty sure the election was very effectively rigged. So I think it’s by far and away most likely that a large majority of voters did not, in fact, vote for this.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 4 points 8 hours ago

I really do not want to go down that path.

But also, weren't there several bomb threats at voting facilities? Did everyone evacuate? Who was watching the machines?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s because many of them chose to stay home. That’s also a choice.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

not always, since for some stupid reason election day is on a Tuesday in America, some people simply are unable to vote

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Plus all of the other, more active forms of voter suppression, like banning felons from voting, surprise deregistrations, sending absentee ballots out late, and requiring people to wait multiple hours while forbidding people from giving them food or water.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Especially the deregistrations are wild to me. Where I live you don't even have to register for elections. If they know you exist, you automatically get an invitation by mail and even if you didn't get it/lost it, you can go to your town hall and ask for one (of course only in the town where you officially live).

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

systemic solutions for systemic problems

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every state allows time off work to vote. Most of them, it's paid time off. Plenty of early voting and vote by mail opportunites around, too.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what the law says. But there's a big difference between the law and reality that those of us who have worked poverty jobs know well.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Definitely don’t exercise your rights, especially when someone is infringing on them.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Exercise your right
Get fired for not being at work

Is it wrongful termination? Absolutely. That's not much comfort when you're unable to make rent this month and can't afford to sue for a barely above minimum wage job.

It's fucked up. But it's the reality in the US.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes food and shelter are more important than your rights. I wish I were nobler but that has been the fact before for me.

Never missed an election though.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong. I also suspect that most of the eligible voters who decided to stay home were not in a food or shelter crisis.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Absolutely correct.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Abstinence demonstrates a lack of critical thought. They chose this path. They are complicit.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We should probably spend years whining and crying about stolen elections like cuntservatives did. Worked for them.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

I dunno, it looks like it did ultimately work for them

[–] Szyler@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That would just be continuing the false claims, just to achieve a result, but that false claim will then just continue with no end.

A short sighted strategy, unfortunately

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, but the reality is Americans are profoundly stupid and you have to lie to them to get votes.

This is our society. I'm just reacting to it.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The violent insurrection with no punishment afterward seems like a fun time.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not enough questions were asked about Elon's involvement in this.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Elon doesn't even have to be involved, is everyone forgetting the news of mail-in ballot boxes being trashed and vandalized days before the count? How many of those people actually got to recast their ballots?

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sowing distrust on the election system is exactly what Trump wants.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Except it's the party of projection. Every accusation is a confession with them. Then claiming vote fraud during the last election is the main reason I think they tried to cheat. They accused the other side of cheating because how could they possibly lose otherwise when they were cheating.

Also the fact that all concerns about election fraud disappeared this election. Do they suddenly not think it's rigged anymore?

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you have become the very thing you swore to destroy

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying it's definitely true but this is pretty convincing. The author lists their credentials at the end of the article.

Here's a preview- a shit ton of mail-in ballots were disqualified. If you are black your mail-in ballot was nine times more likely to be trashed than a white person's.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah I'm pretty sure that if america was actually democratic, meaning every citizen is able to vote, the republican party wouldn't even exist anymore, since only privileged fuckheads vote for them

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All we would have to do is eliminate the electoral college and they'd never win another presidency. Yeah Trump won popular vote this time by 1.5% but the electoral college keeps people from voting.

And really a lot of poor white people vote for Republicans too, against their best interest, for very sad reasons.

But yes you are correct if this were a real democracy they wouldn't stand a chance.

[–] Szyler@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm aware and I fully support it. I'm afraid we have more pressing issues now but I hope some people click your link.