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[–] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are objectively incorrect. My org isn't even the only one in my area with this attitude towards masks, there are 3 that for sure do the same kind of thing.

I am involved in COVID-based organizing, one group in my city who has managed to maintain through collective bargaining mandatory masking at a single small community center, and we are a huge, huge minority in any other capacity and do not accomplish much more than mutual aid. This is not an explicitly communist organization at all. I know of none that are, and this is not a small city. Extremely jealous that you are somehow involved with three other (!) supposedly communist orgs who mandate masking all immediately accessible to you (“contradiction of access” means this is not the case for everyone, “objectively”) and of this miraculous (American?) city you live in that actually listens to you or any disabled people for that matter about policy. Can you tell me what communist orgs you are involved with or know of that still mandate masking policies to participate, or support remote organization for members with limited accessibility or work requirements? Because I don’t believe you.

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

I am involved in COVID-based organizing, one group in my city who has managed to maintain through collective bargaining mandatory masking at a single small community center, and we are a huge, huge minority in any other capacity and do not accomplish much more than mutual aid. This is not an explicitly communist organization at all. I know of none that are, and this is not a small city.

I have been involved in work that spans entire regions. Cities vary wildly in how active they are and what tendencies they are populated by (e.g. mostly Trot city vs. mostly DSA libs vs. almost nothing, and so on). I'm sure there are enough reasonably large cities with very little work on this topic that you could be in one.

Extremely jealous that you are somehow involved with three other (!) supposedly communist orgs

I didn't say they were communist.

orgs who mandate masking all immediately accessible to you

I guess they are accessible. They are orgs my org works with or otherwise has collaborated witb.

(“contradiction of access” means this is not the case for everyone, “objectively”)

Does it? It sounds like pseudoleft jargon and "primary contradiction of access" is nowhere on a Google search. "contradiction of access" appears as a critique of Latino representation in academia. It seems odd to expect anyone to know what you are referring to and I am still unclear on your meaning. Particularly given that your previous comment would be the one wearing the broad brushing hat in this scenario.

and this miraculous (American?) city you live in that actually listens to you or any disabled people for that matter about policy.

For infosec reasons I am not describing the level of government at which tangible results were achieved. But it is not miraculous to organize and achieve tangible results, even on this topic. What would be miraculous would be an internet screed leading to such policy impacts.

Can you tell me what communist orgs you are involved with

No and for InfoSec reasons that is not an appropriate question to ask on this kind of forum. Please do not ask that of others.

or know of that still mandate masking policies to participate

Same answer because this would give away my region of the world and possibly my org by association.

And again, why do you keep bringing up communist orgs? I haven't said anything about communism or communists.

or support remote organization for members with limited accessibility or work requirements?

While I won't name them for the same reasons, there are even more orgs that will do this than who require proper masking and similar COVID prioritization. Orgs I actively dislike and have not yet mentioned will regularly have remote meetings to accomodate exactly that - particularly those with work schedules that disallow in-person meetings. I have helped them mediate conflicts and worked in coalitions with them in the past.

Because I don’t believe you.

You are free to not believe me if you'd like, but that wouod not be a reasonabke conclusion.