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[–] golli@lemm.ee 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

A proper non-Apple Macbook Air equivalent. Because imo for the average user that just browses the internet and does some light office work it seems perfect. And with that I mean:

  • fanless
  • good screen preferably 3:2 or 16:10
  • long battery life
  • unlike the air expandable storage and ideally non soldered ram
  • solid build quality
  • priced at maybe 600-800€?
  • doesn't have to have the greatest performance

Tbh i thought we would get it with Intels lunar lake processors, but so far no luck.

[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Good luck finding anything fanless without being SOC. Though it looks like a Framework would make you happy: https://frame.work/

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly this sounds like a Chromebook to me.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haven't looked at Chromebooks in a while, but you are right that the use case would be similar.

However I was under the impression that they are mostly competing at a lower price point. So I assume you wouldn't find nice build quality or screens.

Beyond that I am not really familiar with how chromeOS stacks up nowadays or if it would be trivial to install Linux/windows on them. Especially if they still have EOL dates after which they aren't updated with software anymore.

A quick search tells me that Google seems to work on a laptop and plans to merge (?) android and chromeOS more.

So overall again products that share some aspects of what the MacBook Air makes attractive, but doesn't offer the full package.

[–] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I have installed Linux on a Chromebook, actually. There's a really good guide on MrChromeBox.tech

The screen on my Chromebook was fine, at least by my (admittedly somewhat low) standards.

And yes, the have EOL dates, which sucks. It's why I installed Linux on mine.

I wonder if there is a Linux distro targeted at the average user who just browses the web and needs office software. I guess Mint comes a bit close, but it also has many other apps preinstalled.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dell XPS 13 Snapdragon seems like it's trying to compete with the Air.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sadly doesn't seem to be fanless, which imo is a really nice feature when you dont care about high performance. Not sure if in the real world you can find good deals on the snapdragon laptops, but list price is also quite high and that keyboard with touch function keys doesn't seem great either.

So in my book that's still no match for what a macbook air m1/2 offers, which by now are a few years old and can be found for decent prices. They might be aiming at the same market, but aren't equal.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 2 days ago

Ah, good point!

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

3:2 sounds horrible. What’s the application when most videos are 16:9?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anything other than watching fullscreen video? 3:2 is so much better for reading, drawing, anything even vaguely productive. It's very close to the ratio of metric paper.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yea, I can see that. I mostly use my PC for games, but for work, I have multiple windows across the screen at different ratios.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

As someone else already answered it is of course not ideal for movie consumption, since it gives you black bars top/bottom, but for productivity it is really nice. Everything from writing, spreadsheets or reading on the Internet benefits from it. Reading long horizontal sentences isn't that comfortable and often times task bars at the top and/or bottom take away some extra space. So a typical 16:9 display ends up offering very little useful working space. The taller aspect ratio isn't a massive shift, but a nice quality of life improvement.

It also means that you have slightly more space for the keyboard or a larger track pad.

If you are ever in a retail shop that carries Microsoft 's surface laptops you could check them out, as they are one of the few laptops that use a 3:2 aspect ratio display.