You do understand how propaganda works, right? It works by zooming in on molehills until they appear like mountains. So while I wouldn’t rule out that Johnson the Idiot said something unwise to Zelensky government, I also don’t automatically think that it means Zelenski was “forced to not give up”.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sigh

farquaad-point redditor!

I also don’t automatically think that it means Zelenski was “forced to not give up”.

Ukraine negotiates ceasefire.
BJ tells Ukraine to not go through with it.
Ukraine does not go through with it.

Why else would Ukraine have reversed course if not for one of its NATO puppetmasters commanding it to? Either it's that, or BJ making a really impassioned argument for sending a bunch of Ukranians to an early grave and Zelensky fell for it, or Zelensky just changed his mind all on his own and the timing is a pure coincidence.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What leverage exactly do you think Johnson had over Ukraine? He hasn’t even got leverage over his toilet seat.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Fuck you're not even sighing anymore, you're really invested now, aren't you?
Also nice goalpost movement, you're a dickhead

[–] Annakah69@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Ukraine has the most corrupt state in the world, the UK has a shit load of money.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

You are not immune to propaganda.
Who gives a shit what you "wouldn't rule out" when even western media goes against you? Get your head out of your ass

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Okay, but it is literally a propaganda source that is aligned with Ukraine lmao. We know it is propaganda, we are presenting it because even the ukrainian propaganda acknowledges it as factual.

[–] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Heavens to Betsy sigh

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Oh fuck lmao, it’s a bot! It all makes sense now