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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's all fun and games until Facebook starts adding features, then eventually starts defining what the fediverse should do to maintain federation with Facebook.

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 76 points 1 year ago

Embrance, Extend, Extinguish. Enshittification. Call it what you will, but i don't think this will end well for us.

[–] V699@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my biggest fear. The hidden weakness of the fediverse is that the largest implementation gets to set the rules of federation

[–] sab@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree. Mastodon does not "set the rules" for federation of Kbin, Lemmy, Funkwhale, BookWyrm, Pixelfed, Peertube, or any other platform in the Fediverse. The platforms are interoperable when it makes sense, but they are designed to fill different needs and it makes no sense for them to follow some centralized "rules of federation".

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think meta just wants to captailize on twitters demise.

I don't see how crushing activtypub would help them in anyway.

Mastodon is already massive and many companies (and the EU) have their own instance.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't see how crushing their competition would help them?

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Activity pub is more than just mastodon, there is book ratings, and also peertube.

I don't see meta ever going there.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t see meta ever going there.

out of the goodness of their collective hearts? They already sell books (through ads) and host video, why do you think they'd stop after only crushing federalized social media? Because they can't be bothered?

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No I just don't see meta wanting to compete in those fields

[–] Magiwarriorx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No? Up until very recently, Mastodon essentially was the Fediverse, and it was laughably tiny compared to Meta. It cracked 2.5 million active monthly users in January, which sounds like a lot until you realize Instagram has 2 billion active monthly users. More importantly, the active user count for the whole Fediverse was in decline since that January number, down to 1.4 million monthly users at the start of June. The Reddit drama drove an increase in users, but no way Meta is agile enough to shove this out the door in response to something that recent. Its not like Mastodon has a glowing public perception outside of the Fediverse, either.

Truthfully, I don't think Meta gives a damn about the current Fediverse; it's too small to matter. Whatever their goal, I don't think we were a consideration.

[–] starlinguk@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta gets paid a fortune to spread disinformation. That's why they're doing this.

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

That is a very real thing they do. I like this reasoning

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Welcome to FOSS software. It's constantly evolving and forking itself. If Facebook wanted to fork ActivityPub RIGHT NOW, they could.

How would that impact your life at all? You could stay using lemmy and mastodon like you have been.