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No, it seems that drag ks working overtime to sympathize with Nazi collaborators upset that they had to pay reparations for the devastation and genocide they contributed to during World War II. These were not "revolutionaries." Hungary had a problem with Nazis since World War II and even before that, to blame the Soviets for Hungarians siding with the Nazis is so utterly confused that it can only be interpreted as deliberate bad-faith.
Genuinely, from me to drag, why does drag do this? Why does drag bat so hard for Nazi collaborators and against Socialists in the real world when it is absolutely clear when the Socialists were in the right?
Drag is needling you to provide a source that the revolutionaries and the nazis were the same group, or at the very least allied. You've only given one sentence of source, and it's hearsay. Drag wants you to give compelling evidence. Accusations aren't worth anything without strong evidence, so drag is confused why you're wasting time when you could give more sources. Seems like you favour rhetoric and guilt trips over proof.
I've given drag several books and articles, like drag asked. Thanks for confirming for me that you lied about wanting sources and just want to troll, I suppose.
Drag read the book cover to cover and didn't see anything about the revolutionaries being the same people as the fascists, apart from that one sentence. If you say there's proof in the book, prove it. Drag read it and couldn't find any. Drag is starting to think you're the one who didn't read it.
"The" book? I linked several. drag is trying to draw a hard demarcation within a group that worked together, I already shared them with drag. Doing a "they weren't Nazis, they just sided with the Nazis against the Socialists" bit to defend pro-fascist, anti-communist murderers is dishonest.
Drag read the book, and they didn't side with the fascists at all. Read the book, please.
Englighten me, drag. What did the counter-revolutionaries spend their time doing when they weren't working with the Nazis against the Socialists?
Maybe you could read the book and find out
Maybe drag could stop defending Nazi sympathizers that lynched Communists and Jewish people as "revolutionaries." If the Soviets gave power to the Nazi sympathizers, the pograms would have continued. Seems the origin of the Nazi problem was the Nazis, and not the anti-fascist Red Army.
How come you think communists are Nazis?
I think lynching the Communist, Soviet officials and Jewish people is a pretty Nazi thing to do, especially coming from people that sided with the Nazis in World War II and were being made to pay reparations for doing so. drag has no coherent ideology other than getting upset at Communists to the point of defending Nazis.
So you're a McCarthyist? You hate communism?
Not sure how that connects, I support AES and I'm a Marxist-Leninist, the target of McCarthyism. drag calling people lynching the Soviets as "Communists" is very silly, the Communists and peasants in Hungary opposed the Nazis who were lynching Communists and Jewish people.
The USSR was neoliberal.
Very silly to call a publicly owned and planned economy where the Working Class was in power "neoliberal." Words have meaning because people need to communicate, just calling everything random names doesn't help that.
It wasn't publicly owned. That requires democracy. The people didn't own the government, and the government owned the means of production, so the people didn't own them. The government was a private entity.
The people participated in and owned the government.
The government was not a "private entity," that's deeply silly.
Even if all of what drag said was true, it still would not be neoliberal, itself an ideology surrounding privatization and international Capitalism. drag has been explained all of this before, though, drag is just a Nazi-defending troll, so drag doesn't actually care.