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Describing the process as dialectical is the human part. For the universe, these processes just are, the universe doesn't care for these labels and categories that we invented to help us understand it.
Precisely. The material process happens regardless. The fact that there is no one there to understand it through the abstract lens of dialectics changes nothing about the process itself.
Quite the opposite. It is believing that pure ideas exist somewhere out there in the ether independently of the material structure of the brain that is the very definition of idealism.
That does not follow at all. That would indeed be idealism. Material reality exists regardless, but it does not care for the language we invented to describe it.
Again, no, that doesn't follow. I think we're just having a semantic conflict with regards to what we mean when we say "ideas exist".
All i'm saying is that an "idea", by which we mean a specific type of pattern or process in the brain resulting from the material interaction (as you also said) between the structure of the brain and the electrical and chemical impulses in it, obviously cannot exist independently of the material substrate on which it happens, i.e. the brain. And on this i think we are both in complete agreement, we're just phrasing it differently.
This is a tautology. Of course everything in the material world is by definition material.
I can't know to what degree a dog is consciously aware and capable of abstraction or just acting on instinct because i am not a dog, so i won't comment on this.
This is actually a very good example because it illustrates my point: Hunger is a feeling. It's real and physical in the same way ideas are but it also depends on an organism that can feel it. Yes, the feeling of hunger can exist in an organism regardless whether that organism is capable of understanding the abstract notion of cause and effect (if ingest food, then no hunger). But if there are no more life forms to experience hunger then clearly the feeling that we call hunger won't exist anymore.
The laws of gravity are a description, an abstraction that we use to understand how the universe works. They are not actually written somewhere on the fabric of spacetime. Yes they would still apply; that is: if someone capable of comprehending them appeared again those laws would still be valid descriptions of the universe. But as i said before, the universe doesn't care about the language, categories and abstractions that we use to describe how it works; it just works, it just is.
As i said, i think this all boils down to semantics. It's a question of language and how we use it.