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    having a moment here in gnome

    to everyone pointing out that this is for touchpads;

    a: it's awful on that too

    b: note the mouse in the example given

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    [–] incompetentboob@lemmy.world 170 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This is an affront to nature

    Looking at you Apple who has this option on by default.

    [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is actually pretty nice for touchpad. It's atrocious for scrollwheel though.

    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    And the magic mouse famously doesn't have a scroll wheel.

    [–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

    I use unnatural for both. It feels like inverted mode for FPS for me. I blame GoldenEye

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It’s so frustrating on iPadOS because there’s one setting that controls touchscreen scrolling and mouse wheel scrolling. So I have to decide if I want my fingers to feel dumb or the mouse or occasionally use to feel dumb. iPadOS is so fucking bad and left to languish.

    [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

    I don't use i-Infrastructure, but apparently there's an app for that. BetterTouchTool separates the two functions.

    [–] Jsprad@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's the first thing I fix when I set up a new Mac. Second thing is install BetterTouchTool. It lets you separate mouse and trackpad options, so the scroll wheel can be right and the trackpad backwards.

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    [–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

    Every few months I find a new BTT option to use on all my machines. Glad I purchased a lifetime license.

    Then again maybe I should have bought a subscription to keep him incentivized...

    [–] soloner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

    Nice me too. BTT and unclutter are my 2 critical Mac apps.

    [–] PunchyMcStabbington@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

    I hate how Apple unifies the mouse scroll and trackpad scroll interpretation, so I really love this project: https://github.com/ther0n/UnnaturalScrollWheels

    [–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    IIRC it's default in Windows and GNOME now too. It's a very strange default.

    [–] incompetentboob@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Ok that’s even worse. I get that its to make it the same as when you push the screen up on your phone blah blah blah

    But they can all die and burn in hell

    [–] dewritochan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    it actually wasn't in this gnome install from last night, i just happened to run across the setting while looking for something else and made the meme. but i do seem to recall having to fix this before in years past.

    [–] sata_andagi@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

    It's the default for trackpads, which makes sense IMO

    [–] smay@lemmy.smay.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    iirc windows uses classic direction and doesn’t have an option to change it to “natural”, meaning if you happened to get used to “natural” you have to do some janky registry thing to flip it

    [–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

    We use Apple Computers at work and when I go to someone's computer and realize that "natural scrolling" is on I can't help but judge them internally. Monsters.

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    It took me awhile to figure that out.

    [–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Apple really only cares about you if you use the Magic Mouse which has a touch surface instead of a scroll wheel. It makes sense on the Magic Mouse but not on any other mouse