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submitted 10 months ago by jacaw@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[-] dolphin@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

We're a liberal instance and some people don't like that.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago

You're not liberals, liberals are centerists, you guys are far, far to the left. Which is fine, but let's not confuse political terms.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago

we're centrists. we hold the political center between anarchism and Marxism-Leninism.

[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

we’re centrists. we hold the political center between anarchism and Marxism-Leninism.

Is that an inside joke? Because outside of Hexbear and maybe 1930s Catalonia, "between anarchism and Leninism" is extreme left.

[-] PaX@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

Is that an inside joke?

Answering genuinely, yeah it is lol

That being said, what is considered the "political center" varies a lot from place to place, a lot more than just 1930s Catalonia.

[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Thank you for being genuinely helpful, unlike your comrades who insulted and posed.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago

You do see how many of us are being treated though right? Some of us are going in hot, but most are interacting reasonably, then getting slammed with bad faith complaints and accusations,

Its incredibly frustrating, I'm sure you can relate

[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let's tally up the replies to me from Hexbear users.

  • One insult.
  • One taunt.
  • One helpful reply with a little pushback (which might be deserved).
  • One reply expressing frustration with how Hexbear users are treated collectively.
  • One troll.

So a minority of Hexbear users interacted reasonably, while the majority of Hexbear users did not.

I know you personally can't do much about your instance's users making a majority of posts in bad faith, but Hexbear as an instance has a bad reputation across the Fediverse right now because of their behavior.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Mate, you've been plenty insulting and toxic, you get what you give.

[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

The more I look the more I see a severe clash of values between Hexbear and SIJW (and most Lemmy instances). Most Hexbears act like spewing insults, trolling, and supporting murderous dictators are blows for righteousness. On the other side, those Hexbears come off as juvenile delinquents wearing Red Guard armbands as they spray graffiti, break windows, and take offense at being told off.

Until Hexbear culture quits sanctifying insults and trolling, a lot of doors are going to be slammed in your faces.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Half of what you said is you disagreeing with our politics

Im sure the people you think are 'the good guys' politically are evil murderous ~~dictators~~ 'democratically elected representative of the people'

The systems you support, tacitly or directly are violent by nature, yet you think dissent against it is acting in bad faith

Its absurd, and it's embarrassing

[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Not sure if you missed my point or you're just trolling.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago
[-] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'll quote myself covering the important parts, skip the metaphor, and try to explain in simple English.

Most Hexbears act like spewing insults, trolling, and supporting murderous dictators are blows for righteousness. Until Hexbear culture quits sanctifying insults and trolling, a lot of doors are going to be slammed in your faces.

We hate you because of how you talk. The "call-outs" which are just an excuse to call people names. The posing. The rude pictures. The trolling. The brigading. Reply to any of it and get another avalanche of name-calling and trolling.

A lot of us also hate what you say. But many of us could tolerate what you say if you said it nicely. What's the point of tolerance if you don't tolerate a few things you hate?

You are a type of troll that is very hard to talk into not trolling. And nobody will put up with your trolling for long if they can ban you. So, expect a lot of bans because you are trolls.

If you argued for Marxism but didn't troll and call people names, you would be banned less.

[-] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago
[-] somename@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

We’ve moved the Overton Window. Sorry I don’t make the rules.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 30 points 10 months ago

According to fascists, sure. Just because fascists call us extreme left doesn't mean we aren't actually centrists.

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