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[–] towelie@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Just chiming in to throw some light hearted shade at lemmy.world for defederating from the piracy communities. My time on lemmy.world was really poor, and I came away not thinking too highly of Lemmy as a whole. My experience in different instances has been a world of difference, and I finally get fantastic content in my feeds and am fully on board with Lemmy

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Yep, their defederation from piracy comms and moderation of Luigi-related politics are my two biggest gripes with the instance administration itself.

[–] NaturalViber@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which instance are you using? I've been using world since start, but open to others. Never really looked into it too much.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

I'm on lemm.ee! It seems to have a good balance of users and sensible defederation. On mobile, the app you use make a world of a difference too. Both Jerboa and Thunder (Android) were mid tier experiences, but now I'm using Boost and it's phenomenal!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Hexbear.net (currently chapo.chat) is good, if you're a Communist or Anarchist. What kind of interests do you have? Dbzer0 has a bunch of great piracy resources, as an example.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Loads of instances do not federate with hexbear.

Surely it's only a good instance if you're happy with a much less federated experience, to say nothing of the usual complaints people have of hexbear users.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are some instances that defederated from Hexbear, but largely instances like Lemmy.world. Hexbear is active enough on its own, federation is just a bonus.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious why you said "instances like Lemmy.world"

https://chapo.chat/post/505181

Looks like the nice people, the canadians, the LGBT, the trans people, the furries, the new zealanders, the programmers, the germans, and the environmentalists defederated with Hexbear, in terms of instances that have a strong theming. The only common trend I can identify between those groups is that they all tend left of center. Except perhaps the germans, given current events.

So when you said "instances like Lemmy.world", did you mean leftists?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not at all, I mean generally right-wing liberal instances. Many Leftist or general instances are federated with Hexbear, like Mander or Lemm.ee.

We could go into the reasons for defederation, if you want.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, so you mean that many right wing instances are deferated, and ALSO the queers, the trans people, and the furries. Interesting. If both the left and the right are opposed to Hexbear, that would logically suggest Hexbear is centrist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hexbear defederated from Blahaj because Blahaj protected chaser mods that were targeting Hexbear users, and because Blahaj is hostile to Marxists. Hexbear is one of the most trans and queer friendly instances on Lemmy. It seems more like you're trying to make the argument that queer people can't disagree with each other, and to do so is right wing? I dunno, it's a silly argument.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hexbear is one of the most trans and queer friendly instances on Lemmy

Hexbear's transphobia has been very well documented.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I've decided not to pursue this conversation any further. It's clear from the downvotes that the people here have already made up their minds. I was a fool to try and have this conversation on lemmy.ml. You can google "Hexbear transphobia", and when you find information you don't like, you can downvote your Google search instead of downvoting me. I'm sure that's fair.

[–] kplaceholder@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was genuinely hoping to see some examples of it, as I am honestly concerned about the safety of trans people on Lemmy due to recent events. But despite being subscribed to a few Hexbear comms myself, my detectors hasn't gone off with them.

I am, of course, also concerned that transphobia is sometimes only being used as the subject of concern trolling to push more hostile actions against openly leftist instances.

There has been recently a heavily transphobic drama involving a certain non-binary user with a neopronoun that got massively dogpiled on, for no good reason that I could actually find, and the transphobia was not exactly coming from Hexbear or any tankie instance.

I'm open to reevaluating my relationship to that instance if transphobia is something that they allow or indulge. But sadly, I need receipts to ensure that you are not just disingenuously weaponizing the concept of transphobia to shit on an instance you don't like.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

Hexbear's stance on the user you are referring to is that said user should not be misgendered, even if said user could be a troll, as misgendering is wrong to begin with.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, fucking provide examples.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There's no need for such aggression. Yelling won't make me do what you want.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Of course you go for the tone policing civility bullshit

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -2 points 22 hours ago

Civility is one of the rules of this community. If you don't believe you're being civil, I'd love to hear so.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

It's more that you came in here by trying to pretend I was making an anti-Anarchist comment, then proceeded to try to pick a fight at every comment you could of mine. You're free to leave evidence of claiming Hexbear is transphobic while defending instances like sh.itjust.works, where the admin thinks China and Russia are pushing "gender politics" to radicalize western youths against the US and then doubled down on it when called out.

I also googled "Hexbear Transphobia" and nothing came up showing any transphobia on Hexbear, for what it's worth.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This conversation ended 26 minutes ago. Please don't bother me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

You're free to stop replying, I'm not going to let your insults hang uncontested.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

EE is nice. They won't defederate with just about anyone. But so far the mod assholery has been minimal.