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submitted 10 months ago by jacaw@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

We are just better at democracy then you, sweety.

xi-vote

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago
[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago

When asked whether they believe their country is democratic, those in China topped the list, with some 83% saying the communist-led People's Republic was a democracy. A resounding 91% said that democracy is important to them.

But in the U.S., which touts itself as a global beacon of democracy, only 49% of those asked said their country was a democracy. And just over three-quarters of respondents, 76%, said democracy was important.

https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176

Ya I will take the people of china's word on this one.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

yes and North Korea is democratic because it says they are.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

More democratic than the US. The US has an electoral college system explicitly designed to make electing a president undemocratic. In Korea they vote for each equivalent of a cabinet position instead of letting the president just appoint all of them. https://www.ncnk.org/sites/default/files/DPRK%20constitution%20%282019%29.pdf

If this shocks you, remember that Americans are the most propagandized people in the history of the world

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Way to compare one of the least free countries with... one of the least free countries.

now do Japan.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To the degree that Korea isn't free, it's is because they've spent their entire existence at war with the largest and most powerful global empire in history and have been cut off from international trade.

The US isn't free because it's a fascist state. The Korean peninsula isn't free also because the US is a fascist state.

Now let's hear your next vapid quip that's supposed to mean more than objective facts and inarguable history, redditor. I don't want you to lose even a bit of steam acting like you're the smartest person in the room while displaying no knowledge about anything.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

So the US is fascist, but China isn't fascist? How's that lil' diddie work?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

Lol you did the vapid quip thing

How is the country that inspired Hitler's entire ideology fascist? How is a state run by a communist party not fascist?

Wow really dealing with the reddit brain trust here, aren't I?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

The US inspired Hitler? Really now? How's that one work?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This would have the content of an actually valuable conversation if you could figure out how to ask questions without making their purpose to come off as incredulous and incurious as you are right now.

It's literally in Mein Kampf. Lebensraum is explicitly intended to be a mirroring of the US doing westward expansion into land held by native tribes. In his writings he made the comparison all the time. It's not a secret unless you had an American education.

They even had illustrated children's books writing a new national mythos along the same lines as cowboys and indians. The United States is Nazi Germany 200 years after Hitler won the war.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago

He cites Manifest Destiny as what the German people should do to eastern Europe and allegedly based the brownshirts on the KKK.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago
[-] sudo@programming.dev 17 points 10 months ago

Original brainchild for Lebensraum explicitly points to Manifest Destiny: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/lebensraum. You can slap "lebensraum" and "manifest destiny" into google and also see the results for yourself. I admit say I'm not a well of primary nazi sources if that doesn't satisfy you.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Oh, interesting, thank you!

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

Zyklon B was used to "delouse" Mexican immigrants at the southern border before it was ever used in Nazi death camps.

IBM built the computers that Germany used to track their Jewish population.

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[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

China is not North Korea.

It took less then 2 minutes from my post for you to reply. You clearly didn't even open the link. You just instantly changed the subject matter. Lol

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn't really wow me.

China is authoritarian, filled with mass propaganda and nationalism, of course they're going to think they're great.

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn't really wow me.

I literally got a notification when they replied. in real time...
I know when I made my comment... less then 2 minutes before I got a notification...

Tell me more about how the lemmy works. I have only been here 4 years.

Good bye, agent.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

oh SHIT. THEY'RE ONTO ME.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago

filled with mass propaganda and nationalism

Yo we got that too in America.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago
[-] sudo@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago

So why is that what makes China so bad? Like most things China is accused doing of the US has done worse.

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[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Good thing you're immune to it!

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

The citation wasn't the state, it was the people, or are you going to take such an immensely condescending attitude towards the approximately 1 billion people represented in that survey as believing they live in a democracy?

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Oh man if only we could interact with these 1 billion people. If only there wasn't a firewall keeping them all contained where all their media is run by the state.

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

150 million tourists visit China yearly...

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

hey, respond to the vpn comment you made

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

Right away. It might take a few hours due to server time differences.

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Anyone can download a VPN it's literally free on the App store. ๐Ÿ‘

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Aw sweet!

now why do we need a VPN to access Chinese Internet? ๐Ÿค”

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago
[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

oh you not gonna whataboutism mentioning the US?

[-] 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's a bit of a non-sequitur in this instance don't you think? We're not talking about what the name of a place is, but rather how the two countries' citizenry feel about their respective governments.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

So isn't it good that the US people don't trust their government?

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

I wish that US people didn't trust their government, especially when their government tells them that other countries are pure evil and need bombing.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

do you wish Chinese people do the same?

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