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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

That's all an armored car can take? My pneumatic pallet jack can hold 5500 lbs.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Your pneumatic pallet jack doesn't hit potholes while going 60 mph.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

True but I figure they could carry more weight than 3000lbs. My car can tow that.

[–] vinyl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You also have to account for the weight of the actual vehicle, 3k lbs is the remaining cargo capacity

And that’s the part that surprises me. I figured it would be more as cash is very heavy.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago

Your pallet jack can't safely carry that cargo, plus people, at highway speeds, 3-5 feet off the ground. I also assume your pallet jack isn't armored, so you've got to subtract the weight of the armor to get the surplus capacity actually useful for cargo.

The typical big armored bank truck you see transporting cash is rated at 25,000 lbs, but already weighs something like 13,000 lbs empty. The smaller vans, like what I assume the parent commenter is talking about, probably has to devote a larger percentage of its gross vehicle weight to the actual vehicle and armor.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I find it extremely unlikely that your pneumatic pallet jack is allowed to hold more than 5,499 lbs.

It's a "max weight" not a "suggested weight".

But yes, a regular armored van can carry around max 3k and a super-heavy can carry max 9k.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience "max" safe working loads on electric and hydraulic pallet jacks are tested to 150% capacity to make sure it'll perform as advertised. Perhaps pneumatic jacks are tested to different standards, but that doesn't sound right to me.

What makes you say it's unlikely?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Overloading equipment will inevitably lead to early failure, even if not right away. It's the same logic as skipping load bearings in a building because the beams are rated to a lower value than their average strength.

Do you need me to explain what the word "can" means? It seems like we are both fluent in English.