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[–] phase@lemmy.8th.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They need the data to train theur AI. They will not delete. They may glag that the account is now deleted and add this to the data fed to the AI.

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

They don't need the data perpetually to train their AI. Just dump it once into the black box and be done with it - no need to save it for even a second. Of course, if they want to train and re-train, and perhaps build ad profiles, that's a different matter.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even for European users? That seems illegal.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It is illegal if you send a delete request.

The question is here, if 'delete account' is the same as asking Meta to delete all data in the regard of GDPR. My guess is, its not.

There's also no way they will retrain their AI without your data, just because you told them to.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you from the EU? We have an entirely different UI than the US. We get additional options. When you request to delete your account and all the data it gets deleted. I'm confident of that. The EU has given very expensive fines for much less than that.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GDPR permits anonymizing data instead of deleting it, provided anonymization is irreversible. They're keeping it one way or another. They don't need to know who the data belongs to to feed it to an AI.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's going to be really difficult to anonymize personal posts. FB and Instagram posts often include personal information. Feeding it to AI isn't going to help as someone might find a way to reproduce it with queries and they get in trouble.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I find it hard to believe any given post would have enough information to link it back to a specific person when viewed in isolation. Even "I'm Mary and going to visit my friend Sarah in New York City." isn't going to tell you who that belongs to if the profile and history itself is gone. It would have to be ridiculously detailed and all contained within a single post to actually reliably point to a specific person.

Containing personal information in general and even having an AI spit it out (which good luck, that's not really how LLM work unless there's something SUPER niche that essentially only you have spoken about) isn't enough to say it isn't anonymized. You also have to show it could specifically be linked to you by other people, in other words, that it can be de-anonymized.