They've decided to incorporate ChatGPT.
this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2025
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I mean, this seems like a really stupid gripe. You can completely disable it for your searches: https://i.xno.dev/FUHSj.png
In addition, it gives you a way to interface with ChatGPT without an account, or using the API, and maintaining privacy... I see this as an absolute win. They stay competitive by including AI for people who can't live without, while making it completely optional. Offering
duck.aiis a smart move, too. I just don't see the issue here.Duck.ai is so good, I don't bother with anything else
Defaults matter. Every time you open a private browsing window, that's what you're going to get. Every time you use LibreWolf or Firefox Focus or any other browser that disables/clears cookies by default (which is a good practice), that's what you're going to get.
I don't want anything I search for going into OpenAI. Ever. I'd feel fine about this if they hosted their own models.
This. I fucking hate that it's opt out. Every goddamn time I open Firefox and run a search I gotta disable the stupid AI bullshit.
use ddg light, it has no AI
I don't think it AI's your search immediately. It just shows you the option to generate an AI response. At least that's how it's been working for me. It's not doing anything unless you hit that button.
Sometimes it is a button, but oftentimes it is just there by default :(
It’s been hit and miss for me. It feels like there’s some cached queries that it presents the AI results for without user interaction. But it’s very clearly marked.
Like, sure. That's a valid argument. But it's not the end of the goddamn world because they make you click a button to use a completely free service.
If you're that pissed about it, then setup SearX yourself. Not sure why every "technologist" feels like their opinion is the only that matters and gets butthurt about shit like this.
I use it if I do not have my own server running. There are many times I am looking for a word or info that is not very compatible with a search engine but is effective for AI.
I think there are a lot of people that just do not understand AI, and how to use it effectively. There seems to be a user filter where low Machiavellian individuals with poor abstractive thinking skills struggle to understand the subjective nature of the world in every space and how all of our collective incorrectness is present in AI too.
Perhaps they only played with very small models of the Llama 2 era, which were much harder to effectively use. Or maybe they played with llama.cpp before April of last year when the special tokens were incorrectly defaulted to GPT2 tokens for all models in the first ~260 positions.
I forget the name of the issue, but seem to recall there is some kind of unsolved database indexing paradox that is why search engines suck now, but that is a vague memory. Likely AI is just the whipping boy for people that are getting left behind by technology they are unable to learn effectively.