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What are your alternatives to proton? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 days ago by wuphysics87@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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To replace everything. Mail, calendar, drive, vpn, password manager, documents etc. What are the pros and cons relative to proton? What are the mobile apps like? What assurances do you have they won't go full proton in the future? And other questions

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[–] recall519@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It does. You need both. Even if you have cookies disabled, Gmail can read all of your emails and use that information.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You need both.

For the third time now--not if the service/device you're using contains both the password and the 2FA... How is this not getting through?

If someone gets into my Bitwarden install, and gets access to both my passwords and my 2FA seeds, in what way does 2FA protect me? I kept all the family jewels in one place. That's the exact situation two factor authentication is designed to prevent by forcing you to have an additional and separate device/key/passcode/password.

[–] recall519@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Say it a fourth time if you want to continue feigning ignorance. You're assuming that the only way your credentials could be compromised is if your password manager it compromised. 2FA would not protect that specific use case if you store both authentication methods in your password manager. However, it does still protect your services from other types of compromises, which is better than no 2FA at all.