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If they haven't fired you, it's because they can't, for one or several of three reasons:
That's why they're trying to get you to quit on your own: if you do, they're off the hook.
I know that because the previous company I worked for, where I was a manager, tried to get me to offboard a member of my team whom they deemed troublesome that way and I refused.
So my advice is: don't quit!
Instead, behave impeccably and document the reasonable requests that you asked your manager. If you feel overwhelmed, tell your manager and don't do extra work that would hurt you. Go see a shrink and tell them you don't feel well because your work is putting extra demands on you. Document your having to see a shrink because of your job, and any prescription pills they might give you.
Build arguments in your favor and don't let them off easy. If / when they finally fire you, show them the file and ask them if they're willing to go to court over it.
And of course, if you're in a union, go see your union rep. That's what unions are for.
Or do the bare minimum and find another job. He doesn't owe these people anything and if his job is so shit and impacting him so badly then get out as quickly as possible.
If there is not a realistic option of moving careers (e.g. close to retirement) then maybe what youre suggesting is worthwhile for him. But otherwise gearing up for a fight over a job he doesn't even want isn't worth it.
The costs on his mental health and well being and the continued opportunity cost of being in a job he hates when he could be in one he likes isn't worth it.
I'd do the bare minimum and spend every effort on getting a new job. Its been made clear his company doesn't want him, and they can't fire him for whatever reason - so make use of that window.
What he said. Also record meetings if you can. And last but not least archive, print or forward emails to a personal account if they don’t check. It can be a good proof in the future.
Be careful doing this, as it could be construed as data exfiltration.
Read whatever user agreement you signed to gain access to a computer, read it thoroughly. Theres probably a digital equivalent of "miranda rights" telling you what data they monitor and what ways it can be used as justification to revoke access or fire you.
I know. If it's a big company, they would have serious IT I guess, but most small to medium companies I worked with had one IT guy that didn't care about anything. The point is not to show the proof, it's to say that you have everything should they decide to fire you.