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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yes, we get it, the response to literally every decision you don't like is massacre of the people you don't like

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 58 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you aware of what depleted uranium does to the human body? Innocent people are going to be dealing with the consequences of a decision made by a handful of people across the planet for decades after the war ends. Does poisoning generations of people sound like "defending" Ukrainians to you?

[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But Depleted uranium isn't enriched uranium.

You're lying.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 66 points 11 months ago

depleted uranium is a radioactive carcinogen, and linked to substantial increases in birth defects and cancer in Iraq

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who said it was? It's still an environmental contaminant, a carcinogen, and linked to a rise in birth defects after its use in Iraq

It's use will have consequences far outside of the conflict and ruin the lives of who knows how many people who had absolutely no say in this war and I'm supposed to cheer it on?

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but why are you upset about this particular heavy metal as opposed to all the others involved in weapons?

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The op is specifically about depleted uranium but hey, if you want to make the case that we shouldn't be sending weapons to Ukraine in the first place I'm not going to argue against it shrug-outta-hecks

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In that case, why do you pretend to care only about certain weapons when you don't want any weapons sent?

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you tankies seem particularly mad about the use of agent orange in vietnam when what you really want is for the US to pull out, huh smuglord

pee pee poo poo

[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oooh you really got him there countdown

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

Depleted uranium is still a very dangerous heavy metal. It just doesn't irradiate what it poisons.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  1. Yes, I'm aware of the effects of depleted uranium on the human body; are you? 2) What would you propose to help Ukraine evict the genocidal invaders from its territory?
[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now we're just throwing genocide into the mix?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Non radioactive munitions.

Show this thread to someone from the 1980s and they would kill themselves. Mainly over your shit

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What a compelling response 🙄

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No analysis, just vibes. Gonna go genocide some mashed potatoes rn

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just stepped in someones front yard without permission, which is technically an invasion, and ive been told this is tantamount to genocide. Am I an imperialist war criminal, Hexbear?

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Guilty of all charges. peppino-snitch

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -3 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a typical fash pastime

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

What would you propose to help Hawaii evict genocidal invaders from its territory?

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seeing one thing Hm, this is like every thing

-The Eternal Lib

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's almost like I've seen this same redfash response multiple times 🤔

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What can I say we like methods that get results edgeworth-shrug

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like my original comment was correct

[–] ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your original comment was word salad.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -3 points 11 months ago

Just because you can't understand it, doesn't mean it's word salad comrade

[–] ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Redfash one hell of an oxymoron considering the reds are in the habit of killing fash.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 11 months ago

That's what they want us to think, anyway

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -2 points 11 months ago

There are complications, but a dialectical analysis shows that redfash are indeed fascists, and there's no need for Holocaust denial to say so

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"You are treating a specific example like a broad generalization to deflect someone's valid point"

vs.

"Heard that one before smuglord"

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub -1 points 11 months ago

Fallacy of the beard. Marx's beard, even.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you think should be done with war profiteers that destroy societies for money?

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's a tankie, that's their answer to everything they can't strawman around.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

pretty funny coming from a dronie

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, "dronie" would be the correct term a tankie would use for a person who supports a country that was invaded by fascists defending themselves.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only fascists in this conflicts are the ones you support, they're pretty open about being fascists too. These are the actual people defending themselves from scum like you https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

[–] flying_monkies@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, the only fascists are the ones that crossed the border into Ukraine and are currently being pushed out. According to the article you linked, it states it's not possible to conclusively prove who launched those cluster munitions in October.

I've noticed the Russian Fascists haven't had a problem using cluster bomb on civilians, targeting hospitals and non-military health care facilities and generally committing random warcrimes.

You know, the simple solution for the war crimes to end would be for the Russian invaders to admit they fucked up, retreat to the borders that were recognized in 2013 and start preparing for the trials at The Hague.

But, Putin is too weak and much like Tankies need to tank... Russian fascists need to fash.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

The regime you support has been doing all of this to people of Donbas for eight years, and even CNN covered this https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

People like you didn't care, and all of a sudden you pretend to give a shit about people of Ukraine. You're just a morally bankrupt scumbag.