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Gaming chat platform Discord in early talks with banks about public listing

US group has sought to broaden its appeal to a mass audience

Discord co-founder and chief executive Jason Citron

Video game developer Jason Citron founded Discord in 2015 © Kimberly White/Getty Images/TechCrunch

Discord is in early talks with banks about a public listing, according to people familiar with the matter, in a sign of a possible revival in the sluggish US IPO market.

Founded in 2015 by video game developer Jason Citron, Discord offers multi-person voice, video and text-based spaces to its 200mn global monthly active users.

The San Francisco gaming chat platform was considering listing as early as 2021, according to people familiar with the matter. However, many technology companies and investors have put their IPO plans on hold due to political and market uncertainty.

That is expected to change this year as interest rates have fallen and US President Donald Trump has laid out a more tech-friendly regulatory agenda.

Discord was last valued at about $15bn in a 2021 fundraising, according to PitchBook. The company’s revived IPO plans remain subject to change, one of the people said.

“We understand there is a lot of interest around Discord’s future plans, but we do not comment on rumours or speculation,” the company said in a statement shared with the Financial Times. “Our focus remains on delivering the best possible experience for our users and building a strong, sustainable business.”

CoreWeave, an artificial intelligence cloud computing provider, filed for a New York IPO this month that would raise about $4bn and value the group at more than $35bn, which could make it the largest tech flotation of the year.

A series of valuable start-ups, including fintech groups Stripe and Chime and data platform Databricks that had been forced to stay private far longer than planned are expected to reignite plans to list their shares.

Discord initially found popularity among gamers, as well as retail trading and cryptocurrency communities, but has since sought to broaden its appeal to a mass audience.

The company has largely shunned advertising, in contrast to larger rivals such as Meta, X and Reddit, in favour of offering its users premium features for a fee.

In 2021, it attracted interest from multiple Big Tech groups, rebuffing a $12bn takeover bid from Microsoft. The recent IPO plans were first reported by The New York Times.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 226 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, can I not just enjoy one thing in my life without it eventually turning adversarial?

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Look for the companies that lead by example. Valve comes to mind. But there’s small businesses out there that do as well.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, not until you embrace open source software. It was always going to be enshittified. Just a matter of time

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I've already switched to Linux. The problem I have with this is that all my friends, a Discord server of around 20 people, are not going to be willing to switch. It's been the way we have stayed in contact for the past 5 years.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

One of the reason people here are so insistent about free and open source software is so that you can enjoy things indefinitely.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

But the problem I keep running into is getting my friends to switch. They're not very tech literate as they came from console gaming. I could try to educate them but the response I usually get is "why would I switch to something that might not work when this already works perfectly fine?" And I can't really argue with it. It's just not even an issue for them.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

I don't know why people trusted Discord, it's one of the worst platforms and I say this while I use it because I had to settle for that (friends) like I had to settle for WhatsApp (family and work)

Irc was better for chat, ventilo and mumble better for audio, and matrix is pretty much the same but better. Discord sucks like Twitter did and I can't wait for it to go away. And forums are a better platform for help and documentation.

Thank God I convinced my fiancee to move our VCs to Wire, away from WhatsApp and Discord.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I think it's less about trusting Discord and more about not giving a shit. It does the thing they want it to do and that's the extent of their consideration. It's the reason why everyone still uses Windows even though it's basically spyware at this point. Talking to my friends about it is like talking to a brick wall and they just check out of the conversation.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Discord does exactly one thing not entirely shittily. It puts all those features in one place. It gets beat out in any one feature, but you can run an entire community within a Discord for free. You shouldn't because it's terrible at most of that and mediocre at the rest, but it's free and just good enough if you bludgeon it into shape with tools and bots and stuff.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

It's free because you're the product

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 hours ago

you can run an entire community within a Discord for free

Wonder how long this will last. Bet they are burning angel investors money up to now, going public is the first step towards having to become profitable.

[–] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

The best part about discord is the streaming feature. So far I haven’t been able to find a replacement for that.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Dude i am so glad. Discord was always a cancer, i hope this will spell the beginning of the end of discord. Its the number one biggest offender in terms of limiting access to information on the internet right now. It needs to die.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

The number of times I've been directed to a useless discord chat while looking for help on a topic is infuriating. Can't wait for this shit to stop.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It also has plenty of utility for non-information-storing purposes. It's more of a cultural issue than an issue with the tool.

Besides, wouldn't it take all the information there to its grave as well, making its death a net information loss? After all, information confined it is still information stored somewhere, just not as easily accessible directly from the Web.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Information that cant be indexed by a search engine is completely worthless to anyone looking for answers. It might aswell not be there.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's still information. I agree that it should be available publically, but information available to few is still more than information available to none. I agree that you shouldn't have to join a Discord server to get that information, but eliminating it entirely so that not even those who do join can access it doesn't help anybody. It would only hurt a few, but a few is still more than zero.

It's an issue of culture, so simply eliminating one repository doesn't fix anything. They'd find some other messaging service to congregate on.

That's not to say Discord are saints and there is nothing wrong with either their business or their platform. That is a separate issue I think we all agree on.

My point is strictly about the hypothetical deletion of Discord over the drift towards opaque information silos: It won't help.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

information available to few is still more than information available to none

If discord didnt exist, that information would just be elsewhere like proper forums, it doesnt disappear magically.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 32 minutes ago

Well, you have one part right: it won't disappear magically. If it does, it will do so quite naturally, unless someone actively preserves it, e.g. by archiving the chat histories.

Of course, you might mean the people with the knowledge that wrote those histories in the first place. You know, the people that used Discord instead of forums. The people that left forums. The people that apparently didn't want to use forums.

Why would you assume they'd move to forums? Clearly there was some reason they chose to use Discord, so why wouldn't they just find a replacement?

Discord isn't the issue. I mean, Discord has plenty of issues, but this particular one is a cultural one. Unless we find a way to entice people back to forums (or some other publically indexable platform), they'll just keep going elsewhere.

So maybe instead of condemning Discord we should ask "Why do people prefer it?" Then we can figure out how to address that and actually do something about the root of the issue.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It would probably take a lot of information to its grave, but the more known "servers" would probably get crawled by archive teams.

Also - assuming Discord wouldn't be replaced by something equally closed off from easy public access - all new information would be easier to access.

When Discord started, they marketed it primarily as a voice chat software for gaming. I remember them marketing it as "superior audio quality to TeamSpeak" or similar wording (which by the way wasn't the case). It obviously has chat, video chat and screen sharing conveniently built in which TeamSpeak is only starting to add now in 2025 with the TS6 beta (they seem kind of lost atm).

I always preferred the decentralized nature of TeamSpeak and Mumble though and at least from my own experience, TS tends to work better with fewer connection issues and better autogain and voice leveling.

I don't like the fact that most people happily gave up decentralized voice chat for a centralized alternative and we still use TeamSpeak in most of my circles to this day.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

assuming Discord wouldn't be replaced by something equally closed off from easy public access

That's what I mean by issue of culture. I don't think the habit of gathering on discord-like services to quickly exchange info will change, and if the explosion of bsky is anything to go by, people will just find the next shiny, pretty and well-funded platform that totally definitely won't enshittify somewhere down the line to pay back their venture capital investors.

We'd be cutting the weed without pulling the root.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Good, that will teach people to use such a shit platform to store "important" information. I hope tons of apps and programs and games crash and burn with it so the lesson sticks.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They probably don't intentionally use it to store information so much as quickly and conveniently exchange answers and questions. Forums have evidently proven inadequate for that purpose, so unless people find a better solution and make it stick, the lesson sure won't.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh but there's a shit ton of documentation that's only available on discord and that's not searchable anywhere and that will just be wiped out of discord ever dies.

Forums are the best for knowledge accumulation via user interactions, Reddit like platforms are second and then you've got whatever discord is and regular chat rooms...

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Oh but there's a shit ton of documentation that's only available on discord and that's not searchable anywhere and that will just be wiped out of discord ever dies.

I absolutely agree. That's part of the point I'm trying to make: The death of Discord might well cause those things to be lost. Hoping for it to crash and burn is counterproductive because thay will only do damage.

Instead, we should figure out why people moved to Discord in the first place, because...

Forums are the best for knowledge accumulation via user interactions

...clearly, whatever makes forums "the best" isn't enough. Then what is it that Discord does better? How can forums work to match it and entice people back?

I don't know. I'm not one of the people that preferred Discord and I can't speak for them. But maybe we should listen first instead of wishing ill on them and hoping their favourite places die.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 minutes ago

People want instantaneous replies instead of having to wait like on forums. Steam still has forums and they're active so clearly not everyone left, Reddit isn't as good because of the lack of permanence (no bumping).

I'm this case I'm very sorry but people just went for the instantaneous reward of chatting and disregarded what they were losing.

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 108 points 15 hours ago

"No. Fuck you. Pay me. Now pay me more. Now enjoy ads. Pay me again. We're now introducing fees associated with the privilege of paying me. So pay that while paying me."

-- approximately everything

[–] vii@programming.dev 12 points 15 hours ago

I have bad news for you, it was adversarial from the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I used to. It's entirely too easy of a program to use.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Man, it's one of the worst UI I ever had the displeasure to use...

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I came from skype so my bar was already pretty low. I'm not defending Discord, by the way. I've just been using it to talk to my friends for years because they all had Discord and it was convenient.