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All the historical evidence for Jesus in one room

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reduction Jesus doesn't even work. Even if you reduce him down to some guy named Jesus who pissed the Romans off you wouldn't be able to account for the community that popped up. Additionally you still can't prove that this diet Jesus event happened, you just lowered the claim so much that it is not plausible instead of impossible.

What does explain the the community would be deliberate fraud. A cult lead by James and Peter about an mythical being.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does explain the the community would be deliberate fraud. A cult lead by James and Peter about an mythical being.

It's a lot easier to convince people you're the successor to the of some kind of deity rather being some kind of deity yourself. A LOT easier. Also... sets up plausible deniability if things get caught out. "I DIDN"T KNOW, HONEST....! he duped me too!"

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeps. Even Tacticus mentions how weird it was that the leader was dead but yet the movement continued. If the leader is very much alive and making up stories about his dead brother for decades it makes more sense.

Also had a precedent in Jewish history. When the temple was closed the leader of the revolt died and his son (so many references to Peter being the successor to Jesus) took over and eventually did restore the temple.