Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Try out the either Element or Fluffychat. Both based on decentralized, privacy, and security. Both based on Matrix. I like Fluffychat for ease of use and it’s on all devices. Plus you have to verify every device that signs in or that new device can not see previous chats as they stay encrypted.

[–] Vlado@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I also use Fluffychat and I’m pretty satisfied. But it has its own “quirks”. I would say it’s slightly more buggy than I would expect. And I’m mostly missing the function for pasting of images from mobile device’s clipboard. It’s still doable, but in a somehow convoluted way. But once I got familiar with it, I’m liking it.

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

One of the latest updates allow you to use the Share button to directly post to Fluffychat. But I do agree with quirks.

[–] Vlado@feddit.org 2 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Yep, that’s what I meant by convoluted. It’s: Share -> Fluffychat -> Click on Post

Then Fluffychat opens with a popup where you select the respective chat and click on Forward. And then click on Send in new popup. It’s not a catastrophe, but I can definitely imagine less steps for that :)

[–] troed@fedia.io 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not just "based on". Element and Fluffychat are two clients that use Matrix and are fully interoperable.

(I'm sure you know, but I'm not sure it's obvious for potential newcomers)

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Tue. Sorry, bit sleepy while responding doesn’t help.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Matrix is terrible for privacy. It shares more metadata with the servers than any other messenger.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

From which year is that claim?

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Today. Matrix does not encrypt your metadata like Signal does. The server can easily build a social tree.

[–] troed@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The Signal server and a Matrix server, of course, have the same metadata visibility.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No they don't. Signal does not get any metadata. Matrix servers get everything and more than any other messenger. Not even the profile picture is encrypt with Matrix.

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I highly suggest getting third party reviews instead of competitor reviews which are ALWAYS SLANTED. Not to mention Matrix based like Element and Fluffychat are Open Source. Unlike Signal. Not to mention Signal provided info to US authorities fairly recently.

[–] Bondar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds great, thanks for the tip

[–] fieryhamster@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You are most welcome. I tried a lot of various messengers and these were the only ones that seemed to fit the extreme security we need in age of fascism.

[–] Bondar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Exactly .. Element looks really good ... Now is the time to bully everyone around me to ditch the US shite and join me over there haha