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[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why is everyone so aggressive about history and facts? Please take your blind rage back to Reddit. This thread is about Steve Jobs, acting like he did not lead Apple to numerous successes is a bold face lie. You might not agree with his methods but that doesn’t mean he accomplished nothing.

Your example proves my point, the alternative, Google, is just as if not more evil than Apple… just because they allow third party stores and less lock-in does not mean their product is better. Each person can choose the product that suits their needs.

[–] icmpecho@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't speak for everyone but I find facts and history important when discussing the behavior of any person or organization's behavior.

Steve Jobs did make Apple very successful - but at the same time, Apple still did bad things and those things are a part of what he did, for better or worse, and refusing to critique them is also not advisable.

because they allow third party stores and less lock-in does not mean their product is better

each person can choose the product that suits their needs

less lock-in is better for user choice and user experience, as defined by the meaning of lock-in. If a user is massively inconvenienced by a service or device when they attempt to move away from it or if something else fits their needs better, that stifles user choice because the switching costs are too high.

your original comment mentioned that users want their devices to "just work" - do you think Apple's more aggressive lock-in is conducive to devices "just working" when the user wishes to switch to Android or PC as opposed to iOS or Mac?

[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 0 points 1 hour ago

Of course he did bad things, he’s human, every great person has said, you learn and grow from your failures.

Apple’s iOS was far more polished than Android in the beginning. Hell, Apple’s iTunes Store paired with its iPods revolutionized the cell phone with the iPhone.

The lock-in has both pros and cons. Do i think it’s hard to move off of Apple once you’re in it? No not really, again they don’t own a monopoly in anything. They just provide a very polished experience in what they do aka “it just works.”

The only thing you can’t really transfer is one-time Apple App Store purchases.

Is it easy to switch from Gmail? Yes, creating a new email is easy, do you get the same benefits leaving the market leader? Most likely not…