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Downvoting things that you don't like. Around 15 years ago, when Reddit was very very young, downvotes were almost never used, except to weed out bad advice, ignorant replies, abuse, etc. As more people got in, the downvote button became the dislike button; with people even arguing that that was the original purpose of the downvote button. Replying with a link to the reddiquette got you downvoted even more lol.
Upvoting useless rubbish comments to the top.
Trying to get people to use downvotes "properly" is a losing battle. Regardless of its original purpose it is, and always has been, a dislike button.
It might be a losing battle, but Reddit lost it slowly, more and more over years. And it existed for a good reason.
You might be right in that it's inevitable and not worth the effort, but Reddit did okay with it for a number of years. It might be better to try.
It possibly got worse, I don't see as many people refering to "reddiquette" as I used to, but I'd argue the majority has always been using it that way. I remember people complaining about this in like 2010.
Rarely I'd comment something (in short) like "I don't agree, but upvote". It wasn't elegant, but it allowed people to follow reddiquette without endorsing the thing they were upvoting.
I don't know of a better way of accomplishing that.
give a thumbs down/disapproval button, but also this original-spirit-of-downvoting thing.
I disagree with that. It's human nature downvote something you disagree with when given an option.
It's best to just acknowledge it and accept it to some degree while still encouraging users to upvote well written disagreements.
But don't pretend that it shouldn't also be used as a disagree button frequently. The two way voting system is a large contributor to what made reddit great. It has some drawbacks, but don't expect that to change. It's like asking lead to not be dense.
I always liked stackoverflows approach where down voting something would cost 2 of your own points. Of course, points on stack overflow are more 'valuable' as they unlock additional rights on the site like editing others posts without review etc.
I always liked stackoverflows approach where down voting something would cost 2 of your own points. Of course, points on stack overflow are more 'valuable' as they unlock additional rights on the site like editing others posts without review etc.